You. Need. Help.

I was in that Shiite you got... this weekend.

I have a Front wheel drive car with Awesome Tires and a Great Driver. An Olds Bravada... all-time 4-wheel drive. nice.

I also have a 10HP(conservative) (rebuilt motor ... zoom zoom only runs on premium, gotta prime the crap out of it to start it though)

28" wide... 32" Tall main scoop. Throw snow 50 feet or right next to you.

I also, have Carhart Jackets, Pants and some Good Insulated work boots. Gloves are $6 cheapies from a Plumbing Work store, they are awesome for how thin they are. Nice Stocking hat with neck cover.

I can stay out and let the dogs run while I snow-blow mine and 4 other neighbors, Clean off all the cars and Snow-rake the roof.

I love Winter. I wish it were here LONGER and about 10 times the snow.

I figure it this way: In Winter, you can stay warm with good clothing. In summer, I am sure, more than one person will agree they really do not want to see me trying to stay cool in a G-String Speedo, IOW, I can't take enough clothes off to stay cool.

Now you know why I like Winter.

I don't necessarily love snow, but I sure love the cold as opposed to the heat. The main reason is because my allergies go absolutely nuts in the heat and spring months also, but when it gets cold and stays cold, I feel so much better, and can breathe so much better. And like someone mentions later in this thread, you can always add more clothes.

But lately our winter in St. Louis has been nuts. When that big snow storm came through towards the East, it completely missed us. There was this huge hole in the snow blanket and ta da, we were in it. So weird. Then, it's 40 degrees today when it was 17 two days ago. That is the kind of winter weather I can really do without, because my migraines happen when the weather changes back and forth dramatically, as well as my allergies go nuts.

Give me a straight cold snap any day.

Brenda

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Post #191,335 by lister 1/24/05 11:04:39 AM Reply	You. Need. Help. I was out in that weather for most of the day and night Saturday and it was terrible! Give me nasty hot sticky summer anytime! lister
Post #191,336 by mmoffitt 1/24/05 11:06:22 AM Reply	What he said. bcnu, Mikem Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. (Just trying to be accepted in the New America)
Post #191,337 by inthane-chan 1/24/05 11:25:11 AM Reply	I love snow. It's probably due to the lack of it around here, but I do love it and cherish it so... "Here at Ortillery Command we have at our disposal hundred megawatt laser beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his 'SMITE' button for our fire control system."
Post #191,350 by lister 1/24/05 12:14:19 PM Reply	You. Need. Help. Too. You need to spend a considerable amount of time living in an area that gets snow and cold that sticks around for a while. Sure it's fun when you're a kid. When you start to get older you have to help out with the shovelling then you inherit those responsibilities. If you're lucky you'll have siblings around your age to help out. Then there's the cold. The freezing cold. And the wind to make it even worse. The kind of nastiness that makes you question your sanity after being in it for two minutes. Gah, and dealing with people that can't drive in it worth a lick! lister
Post #191,354 by drewk 1/24/05 12:24:13 PM Reply	Walking the dog 12 degrees F Winds at 40mph off Lake Erie Blowing snow hits your eyes from the side making them tear up Tears blow sideways across your face, then freeze Corners of the eyes get chapped Hurts to blink Oh yeah, this shit is great. Want some, Thane? === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #191,356 by inthane-chan 1/24/05 12:37:13 PM Reply	That's why I don't have one.
Post #191,360 by folkert 1/24/05 12:47:17 PM Reply	I do. Oh wait... I was in that Shiite you got... this weekend. I have a Front wheel drive car with Awesome Tires and a Great Driver. An Olds Bravada... all-time 4-wheel drive. nice. I also have a 10HP(conservative) (rebuilt motor ... zoom zoom only runs on premium, gotta prime the crap out of it to start it though) 28" wide... 32" Tall main scoop. Throw snow 50 feet or right next to you. I also, have Carhart Jackets, Pants and some Good Insulated work boots. Gloves are $6 cheapies from a Plumbing Work store, they are awesome for how thin they are. Nice Stocking hat with neck cover. I can stay out and let the dogs run while I snow-blow mine and 4 other neighbors, Clean off all the cars and Snow-rake the roof. I love Winter. I wish it were here LONGER and about 10 times the snow. I figure it this way: In Winter, you can stay warm with good clothing. In summer, I am sure, more than one person will agree they really do not want to see me trying to stay cool in a G-String Speedo, IOW, I can't take enough clothes off to stay cool. Now you know why I like Winter. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* [link\|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230\|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Miltary Intelligence"] No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link\|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp\|source]
Post #191,414 by drewk 1/24/05 5:29:32 PM Reply	Good reason for the rest of us to like it, too === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #191,362 by jbrabeck 1/24/05 12:50:39 PM Reply	Born and raised in Minnesota Wouldn't want you wimpy winters. Not Winter until -20\ufffdF. Until then it's just late Fall weather. Have worn winter jacket twice this winter, and that was 'cuz I was washing my regular jacket. We FINALLY got some snow 10" (on my deck) on Friday. Couple more snowstorms and I might have to fire up the snowblower. Cold and snow and day over heat and humidity. A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
Post #191,364 by folkert 1/24/05 12:53:42 PM Reply	Aye-Freakin'-men. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* [link\|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230\|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Miltary Intelligence"] No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link\|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp\|source]
Post #191,367 by jbrabeck 1/24/05 1:01:56 PM 1/24/05 1:02:11 PM Reply	You can always add additional clothing to keep warm... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Edited by jbrabeck Jan. 24, 2005, 01:02:11 PM EST Expand All History
Post #191,368 by folkert 1/24/05 1:04:19 PM Reply	DING-DING-DING. We have a winnah! -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* [link\|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230\|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Miltary Intelligence"] No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link\|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp\|source]
Post #191,387 by mmoffitt 1/24/05 2:02:33 PM Reply	What.He.Said.Again. And what really blows is the new FBO at the airport across the street from where I work decided this year that it costs $20.00 to pre-heat an airplane engine for 30 minutes. Twenty freaking dollars to turn on a little electric forced air heater with dryer ducting on it and shove it up under the cowling. Needless to say, I'm not commuting by air until the frickin' temperature stays above 40 all day. Which will be some time in late April or May. We get our first snow (almost always) in October and our last snow in April (when it doesn't snow in May, which it has done three times in the last 10 years). Only an idiot, or some one who married some one from here, would live up here. bcnu, Mikem Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. (Just trying to be accepted in the New America)
Post #191,375 by Nightowl 1/24/05 1:25:33 PM Reply	Re: I love snow. I don't necessarily love snow, but I sure love the cold as opposed to the heat. The main reason is because my allergies go absolutely nuts in the heat and spring months also, but when it gets cold and stays cold, I feel so much better, and can breathe so much better. And like someone mentions later in this thread, you can always add more clothes. But lately our winter in St. Louis has been nuts. When that big snow storm came through towards the East, it completely missed us. There was this huge hole in the snow blanket and ta da, we were in it. So weird. Then, it's 40 degrees today when it was 17 two days ago. That is the kind of winter weather I can really do without, because my migraines happen when the weather changes back and forth dramatically, as well as my allergies go nuts. Give me a straight cold snap any day. Brenda "The people of the world having once been deceived, suspect deceit in truth itself." -- Hitopadesa 600?-1100? AD, Sanskrit Fable From Panchatantr
Post #191,380 by lincoln 1/24/05 1:41:56 PM Reply	Move to Houston then you can visit Spiceware while you enjoy your preferred weather. lincoln "Windows XP has so many holes in its security that any reasonable user will conclude it was designed by the same German officer who created the prison compound in "Hogan's Heroes." - Andy Ihnatko, Chicago Sun-Times [link\|mailto:bconnors@ev1.net\|contact me]
Post #191,551 by lister 1/25/05 1:08:22 PM Reply	Problem The only two places I would consider living in the US are Hawaii (though I haven't visited there yet to 100% confirm wanting to live there but I've heard good things) and NYC if I could somehow magically afford one of those nice homes bordering around the southern half of Central Park. Any other place I'd have to clear out most of you American folks and bring the Canadian system down with me. How moist does Houston get anyways? I definitely dislike a dry heat. lister
Post #191,569 by mmoffitt 1/25/05 2:56:36 PM Reply	Tuscon, AZ is nice and Arizona is almost another country. bcnu, Mikem Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. (Just trying to be accepted in the New America)
Post #191,572 by Ashton 1/25/05 3:50:14 PM Reply	Flagstaff gets ya 'seasons' too; real snow + the other stuff
Post #191,573 by Andrew Grygus 1/25/05 4:07:57 PM Reply	But who'd want to live in Flagstaff? I did a multi-day job there once. Depressing place. A couple months later I did a similar job in Prescott. Now that was nice! [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #191,600 by bepatient 1/25/05 6:41:32 PM Reply	Agree. Flagstaff I can take or leave. Prescott is dead center, God's country (for those who will forgive the christian intonation ;-) If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #191,613 by Andrew Grygus 1/25/05 8:01:13 PM Reply	Ummmmm . . . . How does "God" imply Christian? Christians have a monopoly on God maybe? Other opinions may differ. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #191,629 by bepatient 1/25/05 9:55:45 PM Reply	Just poking No monopoly. substitute "religious" if you like. of course..I could quote foghorn leghorn.... If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #191,630 by Andrew Grygus 1/25/05 9:59:48 PM Reply	But . . . Foghorn Leghorn IS God . . . . . isn't he? [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #191,633 by bepatient 1/25/05 10:07:18 PM Reply	Re: But . . . Foghorn Leghorn IS God . . . I thought he was a [link\|http://www.wiseacre-gardens.com/buttons/pics/sounds/fog2.wav\|9 ball champion.] If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #191,638 by Ashton 1/25/05 10:48:28 PM Reply	Hmmm - maybe so. Limited experience. Friends there; general layout seemed tolerable, but I didn't meet enough locals to evaluate the atmosphere, nor had they been in town long enough to.. For their sake, hope there's another 'Flagstaff' than your sample (!) (Did note that there are few meeja outlets you'd want to attend, so cable / satellite would be not even optional, unless one is dropping out anyway.) But hey: there's snow!
Post #191,570 by SpiceWare 1/25/05 3:31:09 PM Reply	Then you'd really like it here Humid, very humid. Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://spiceware.org/gallery/ArtisticOverpass\|Artistic Overpass]\n[link\|http://www.spiceware.org/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #191,576 by jbrabeck 1/25/05 4:57:04 PM 1/25/05 4:57:23 PM Reply	I'd take dry heat over humidity any day. A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Edited by jbrabeck Jan. 25, 2005, 04:57:23 PM EST Expand All History
Post #191,619 by drewk 1/25/05 9:12:03 PM Reply	Move to the Stumps Twentynine Palms, CA. It don't get too much drier ... at least nowhere that's inhabited year-round. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #191,640 by a6l6e6x 1/25/05 10:57:52 PM Reply	How about Furnace Creek in Death Valley? :) Alex The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #191,669 by Steven A S 1/26/05 9:15:33 AM Reply	I remember a few blast furnace days... at Edwards AFB, CA (on the edge of the Mohave Desert). I still prefer it to the cold up here in North Dakota, but I prefer a more humid environment. ~~~)-Steven---- "I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country..." General George S. Patton

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