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New Re: Not sure about Hard Drives
you might see if the auto fan speed can be turned off so that the fan in that zone runs full speed. That setting would be in the CMOS if anything.

If there are drives right over that zone, you might consider (if there's room) a fan mounted in front of the drives pulling air between them and out. For purposes of airflow, you'd want to make sure there's a fan pulling air into the case as well
~~~)-Steven----

"I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.
He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country..."

General George S. Patton
New Thanks
I'll ask John. I know it has LOTS of fans, I think 5 or so, but I get mixed up. He bought the case specifically because it had a really good cooling system, and it has a lot of room to work in, it isn't cramped whatsoever.

Oddly enough though, today the temperature in Zone 2 hasn't gotten above 88 once. Still not sure what the problem was yesterday, but it is a lot cooler in here today. My indoor thermometer on the desk says it's 80 in here.

Nightowl >8#

Edit: It says in Nikolai's spec sheet (I created) that the case is a Silver Alunimum Dual Cooling ATX Case.



"A determined soul will do more with a rusty monkey wrench than a loafer will accomplish with all the tools in a machine shop." -- Robert Hughes, Australian Art Critic, Writer
Expand Edited by Nightowl Aug. 31, 2004, 02:54:23 PM EDT
New Okay, here is what I know about fans, etc.
There are two fans in the front that are intake fans, and I was wrong about the placement of Zone 2. It's actually behind the processor towards the back, near the Power Supply, not near the Hard Drives and other mounted things.

The Power Supply, which is next to the motherboard, does not feel hot. There is a fan mounted right on the CPU, one on the power supply that is an outtake fan, and there's another outtake fan on the back built into the case. That's a total of 5 fans. When the temp was up higher in Zone 2 yesterday, that side of the CPU did feel hotter than the other, but the CPU itself was not that hot.

As for fan speed, John hasn't had a chance to look at speed settings yet, and I'm trying to determine what the safe speed should be, but I need to dig more through my manuals or track down info online. I was very busy today, and didn't do that yet. And I went out tonight to watch some of the World Cup Hockey game, so hopefully I can do more research tonight or tomorrow. I did find a schematic of the board, if that would help diagnose the problem, It's the D845PESV board and it can be found here:

[link|http://www.intel.co.jp/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-012552.htm|http://www.intel.co..../sb/CS-012552.htm]

Today it stayed well below 100, never going past 90 at any point that I checked. But we're also running it with the case open, so that may be a factor. John plans to clean it out completely with compressed air on the weekend, so right now I'm just watching it.

I appreciate all the input.

Nightowl >8#



"A determined soul will do more with a rusty monkey wrench than a loafer will accomplish with all the tools in a machine shop." -- Robert Hughes, Australian Art Critic, Writer
New Bizarre change
It's almost 1 am, the temperature in the room is about 80, and suddenly the temp in Zone 2 started rising again. I checked on it repeatedly, and it hit 104 before starting back down.

While it was heating up, I felt Zone 2 (I know how now) and it did feel warmer. I can't figure out what was heating it up, all the fans were blowing. Only difference from earlier today when it never went up was the small fan blowing on me and the computer from behind me. It wasn't on tonight.

John joked it was all the copying and pasting into Word I was doing yesterday, cause I did a lot. Surely that wouldn't be the case right? What's weird though, is I was not doing it earlier today, but was doing it now, when the temp went up. Coincidence?

This gets more and more mysterious, I swear.

Nightowl >8#



"A determined soul will do more with a rusty monkey wrench than a loafer will accomplish with all the tools in a machine shop." -- Robert Hughes, Australian Art Critic, Writer
New Re: Bizarre change
Considering the location, and you say the power supply isn't overly hot; the best that I can come up with is that you're getting a dead air pocket between the side of the PS and the motherboard. Having a room fan blowing on the open computer would get the air flowing through that pocket allowing it to cool better.

Newer power supplys actually have two fans; one on the back side like the traditional units (blowing out), and one underneath the unit pulling air away from the CPU. If you don't have one of these PS units, you might consider getting one. Beyond that, I don't have any ideas.
~~~)-Steven----

"I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.
He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country..."

General George S. Patton
     Nikolai mysteriously overheating - (Nightowl) - (42)
         Rename it Reginald - (deSitter)
         Off hand, that seems to be pretty cool for a processor. - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
             It's not the Processor Temperature :) - (Nightowl)
         May have found the answer - (Nightowl) - (38)
             Ah was wrong about affects - (Nightowl) - (37)
                 Re: Ah was wrong about affects - (Steven A S) - (19)
                     Not sure about Hard Drives - (Nightowl) - (18)
                         best thing to do is throw that alarm thingy away - (boxley) - (12)
                             Well... - (Nightowl) - (1)
                                 Here ya go - (deSitter)
                             rofl agreed - (deSitter) - (9)
                                 of course not - (boxley) - (8)
                                     Oh I beg to differ - (Nightowl) - (7)
                                         He said 'smoke and burning smell,' nothing about a clunk -NT - (drewk) - (6)
                                             Ah ok - (Nightowl) - (2)
                                                 certainly the clunk was at fault - (boxley) - (1)
                                                     We never completely determined it - (Nightowl)
                                             Smoke, smell, clunk, dead body in trunk... - (deSitter) - (2)
                                                 that is funny as hell. - (boxley) - (1)
                                                     Re: that is funny as hell. - (inthane-chan)
                         Re: Not sure about Hard Drives - (Steven A S) - (4)
                             Thanks - (Nightowl)
                             Okay, here is what I know about fans, etc. - (Nightowl) - (2)
                                 Bizarre change - (Nightowl) - (1)
                                     Re: Bizarre change - (Steven A S)
                 Anyway, getting back to Nikolai... - (Nightowl) - (16)
                     you wont know until it breaks :-) -NT - (boxley)
                     Tried an experiment...shocked at the results - (Nightowl) - (14)
                         Processor usage - (deSitter) - (10)
                             Re: Processor usage - (Nightowl) - (9)
                                 Re: Processor usage - (deSitter) - (8)
                                     Re: Processor usage - (Nightowl) - (7)
                                         Re: Processor usage - (deSitter) - (6)
                                             Okay, I told him - (Nightowl) - (5)
                                                 Re: Okay, I told him - (deSitter) - (4)
                                                     I see - (Nightowl) - (3)
                                                         Don't know about that -NT - (deSitter)
                                                         Clean the crap off the leading edges of the fan blades. -NT - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                             Will do, Peter - (Nightowl)
                         You'd be surprised at what makes a CPU get hot. - (static) - (2)
                             2nd experiment, amazing results! - (Nightowl) - (1)
                                 Real world physics intrude in our digital fancies - (Arkadiy)

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