I figured the connection problem

Post #170,022 by orion 8/18/04 11:57:30 PM Reply	I figured the connection problem I used Juno instead of my ISP and it looks like I can connect using a different connection. The only problem is the adware the sluggishness and being booted off for paying customers. *"When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in confederacy against him." - Jonathan Swift* [link\|http://www.xormad.com:4096/district268\|I am from District 268].
Post #170,024 by Nightowl 8/19/04 12:07:08 AM 8/19/04 12:32:05 AM Reply	Great! I was starting to worry that maybe you had unknowingly done something to sabotage yourself as one of your alter-egos again, like in 2002. You're still unable to get on using your ISP though? I would check all the settings on the firewall and then if nothing seems askew, I'd call them. Nightowl >8# Edit: corrected spelling "A determined soul will do more with a rusty monkey wrench than a loafer will accomplish with all the tools in a machine shop." -- Robert Hughes, Australian Art Critic, Writer Edited by Nightowl Aug. 19, 2004, 12:32:05 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #170,027 by orion 8/19/04 12:12:08 AM Reply	You have greatly misjudged me The ISP still does not work, Juno uses the same firewall, if the firewall were at fault or the host file blocked it, then Juno would not work either. Sorry but there is no sabotage here by an alter-ego, and also no alter-ego creating Yahoo groups or making posts on IWETHEY as you suggested might be happening. *"When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in confederacy against him." - Jonathan Swift* [link\|http://www.xormad.com:4096/district268\|I am from District 268].
Post #170,034 by Nightowl 8/19/04 12:25:14 AM Reply	It's not about judging you It's about what I know the illness is capable of causing you to do. I'm glad there isn't an alter-ego, and I hope you solve the ISP problem, but I had to consider it, since you had the same problem in 2002, and it had been. And don't you see how it would have made me look, I come in here and ask for help so you can connect, and then if you had connected as someone else, and they proved it was you, I'd have looked like I was part of the scam, and I'm not. I genuinely try to help you. Sometimes I don't make the best decisions, but Norman, there are times where you scare me a lot, and I don't always make the best decisions. We'll discuss it more in IWT Yahoo, we don't need to bother this board with all this angst. Okay? Nightowl >8# "A determined soul will do more with a rusty monkey wrench than a loafer will accomplish with all the tools in a machine shop." -- Robert Hughes, Australian Art Critic, Writer
Post #170,037 by Nightowl 8/19/04 12:32:39 AM Reply	I also determined another reason that might be the problem. Some people have problems with SP2, it causes all kinds of havoc. I read some of it, but I don't know what applies to you, but it's possible since you just updated, that some of the problem is from the SP2 pack, and you need to find and change some settings to allow the connection. There's more on microsoft.com if you can get there. Nightowl >8# "A determined soul will do more with a rusty monkey wrench than a loafer will accomplish with all the tools in a machine shop." -- Robert Hughes, Australian Art Critic, Writer
Post #170,091 by ChrisR 8/19/04 9:57:25 AM Reply	My take on SP2 All those apps that are breaking probably need to be broke. (For security sake that is).
Post #170,108 by Nightowl 8/19/04 11:33:08 AM Reply	Hmmm So you don't think it could be what's preventing his ISP from getting to this site? I'm just looking at all possible options, because John and I have studied the problem for two days and can't find a reason, other than it being ths ISP's fault. Nightowl >8# "A determined soul will do more with a rusty monkey wrench than a loafer will accomplish with all the tools in a machine shop." -- Robert Hughes, Australian Art Critic, Writer
Post #170,115 by ChrisR 8/19/04 11:49:10 AM Reply	Not likely Most of the problems with SP2 that I've seen are related to various undocumented ports being used by software (i.e. not the standard ports). Since connection to this forum is strictly http (port 80), it's not likely that this port will cause problems. Now it's possible that the ISP is using some behind the scenes trickery to connect between the ISP and the client, but that would probably be some fragile framework. As long as they are simply passing through TCP/IP packets that are on port 80, the SP2 should not cause any problem. On a different note, we had a problem with our server the other day that was kind of odd. We could access http from home, and 99% of our customers had no problem at all. However, we could not access it from our office or from an office across the street. Turned out that the secondary provider for our ISP was having some routing problems. This meant that there were inaccesible to and from our server. Mind you the problem was very localized. If there is a problem, it's likely to be something more along those lines. And access the zIWETHEY is probably not the only branch that is disappearing along the torturous path.
Post #170,116 by Nightowl 8/19/04 11:52:03 AM Reply	You're right about the access He can't get to several other sites either, so it does indeed sound like a routing problem. Even Peter thought so. Hopefully if it is the ISP, they'll figure it out and correct it. Thanks, Chris! Nightowl >8# "A determined soul will do more with a rusty monkey wrench than a loafer will accomplish with all the tools in a machine shop." -- Robert Hughes, Australian Art Critic, Writer
Post #170,134 by orion 8/19/04 1:03:35 PM Reply	It is good that you believe me and don't think I am making it up. We are making progress here. *"When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in confederacy against him." - Jonathan Swift* [link\|http://www.xormad.com:4096/district268\|I am from District 268].
Post #170,137 by Nightowl 8/19/04 1:07:13 PM Reply	I never didn't believe you I just had to consider ALL possibilities as to the problem. Nightowl >8# "A determined soul will do more with a rusty monkey wrench than a loafer will accomplish with all the tools in a machine shop." -- Robert Hughes, Australian Art Critic, Writer
Post #170,151 by orion 8/19/04 1:19:57 PM Reply	Even the ones that could be wrong? *"When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in confederacy against him." - Jonathan Swift* [link\|http://www.xormad.com:4096/district268\|I am from District 268].
Post #170,230 by ben_tilly 8/19/04 3:10:43 PM 8/19/04 6:09:04 PM Reply	Obviously so They call it a possibility because it is possible, not because it is true. If you consider all of the possibilities, most will turn out to be wrong. Hopefully you'll correctly identify the right one, but to get there you have to consider many that later turn out to be wrong. Ben To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act - [link\|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20\|Nebraska Supreme Court] Edited by ben_tilly Aug. 19, 2004, 06:09:04 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #170,232 by deSitter 8/19/04 3:12:17 PM Reply	shhhhhhhhhhPATH INTEGRAL! -drl
Post #170,299 by Ashton 8/19/04 6:04:13 PM Reply	Nicht! - delta funczione?
Post #170,949 by orion 8/25/04 3:44:22 PM Reply	The possibilities are endless you can talk about possibilities until you are blue in the face. I don't care about them until you can prove them beyond a reasonable doubt. My ISP has had problems with routers on other networks accepting their new IPs. Looks like the problem has cleared up. So then, logically, I can rule out all of your half-assed possibilities, and prove that you've always been grasping at straws with half-assed possibilities. *"When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in confederacy against him." - Jonathan Swift* [link\|http://www.xormad.com:4096/district268\|I am from District 268].
Post #170,951 by ChrisR 8/25/04 3:49:33 PM Reply	Only problem with self-correcting problems... ...is that they have a tendency to come back and haunt you (and usually at the most inopportune time. Generally ISPs are not likely to divulge a screw up on their part.
Post #170,954 by orion 8/25/04 3:53:44 PM Reply	Could very well be an ISP screw-up The IP range they said had problems was a different IP range than I actually had. Possibly a cover-up of what really happened. Yet after contacting them, and complaining for a while, the connection mysteriously cleared itself up. Of course I reset my router and DSL modem a dozen times or so plus I had some power blackouts, so maybe that had something to do with it as well? *"When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in confederacy against him." - Jonathan Swift* [link\|http://www.xormad.com:4096/district268\|I am from District 268].

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