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New I definitely made a mistake
I was reaching for Lester Thurow's remark, ...the epitaph of the Reagan presidency will be: 'When Ronald Reagan became President, the United States was the largest creditor nation. When he left the presidency, we were the world's largest debtor nation.' Which is true. But we were already on the path from creditor to debtor in 1980. A fact that I got wrong.

As for the explosion in the trade deficit under Clinton, you'll note that I did mention that Reagan's excesses have been topped since. That would be an example.

Cheers,
Ben

Update: I've been searching for when we went to having a trade deficit. Apparently it happened in 1971 under Nixon. I don't know if we went back positive during the 70's though, we might well have.
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act
- [link|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20|Nebraska Supreme Court]
Expand Edited by ben_tilly June 7, 2004, 01:34:54 AM EDT
New Bounced around zero till the oil crisis
Never been back there since.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

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New IIRC, we became a debtor nation in 1982.
For the first time in decades. Then, Reagan really ratched up spending.

First term: From World's largest Creditor to Debtor.
Second term: From debtor to World's largest Debtor.

That is what the Neocon's call "Economic Revival".
bcnu,
Mikem

If you can read this, you are not the President.
     Gipper gone - (rcareaga) - (103)
         Let us celebrate one of his famous utterances, then: - (Ashton) - (1)
             My favorite, Reagan speaking in Berlin in 1987, is: - (a6l6e6x)
         Re: Gipper gone - (deSitter)
         Unlike the other sentiments expressed - (boxley) - (32)
             An America full of hope and vision? - (deSitter) - (2)
                 Sure...Lots of Hope and Vision - (jb4) - (1)
                     Keep Kerry's wife out of it :) -NT - (boxley)
             Nice sentiments. - (bepatient) - (28)
                 Re: Nice sentiments. - (deSitter) - (26)
                     reagan did neither, it was clinton and bush that did both -NT - (boxley) - (25)
                         He created both trends - (deSitter)
                         Try some arithmetic. - (mmoffitt) - (11)
                             But, the Soviet Union came apart at the seams because of him - (a6l6e6x) - (10)
                                 Not true - (deSitter) - (9)
                                     Not that some of what you say about SU wasn't true... - (a6l6e6x) - (5)
                                         We outspent them. - (bepatient) - (4)
                                             And spent ourselves out of existence as well. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                 jury still out.. -NT - (bepatient)
                                             A convenient fiction - (Silverlock) - (1)
                                                 RIght. - (bepatient)
                                     Blah, blah. blah - (Arkadiy) - (2)
                                         *applause* - (bepatient)
                                         Sorry bud, you weren't here - (deSitter)
                         How quickly you forget - (ben_tilly) - (11)
                             Nice try. - (bepatient) - (10)
                                 This is just false - (deSitter) - (4)
                                     Did you respond to the wrong post? - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                         Oops - had both open - put this under beep "outspent" -NT - (deSitter)
                                         I gave you the pictures. -NT - (bepatient)
                                     It is a vast simplification. - (bepatient)
                                 I definitely made a mistake - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                     Bounced around zero till the oil crisis - (bepatient)
                                     IIRC, we became a debtor nation in 1982. - (mmoffitt)
                                 Actually, trade deficits started before Carter. - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                     They bounced a bit early.... - (bepatient)
                 Nice to see... - (bepatient)
         Gone but not forgotten - (orion) - (42)
             Re: Gone but not forgotten - (rcareaga) - (41)
                 Take a breath ferchrissakes. - (bepatient) - (6)
                     ignore the californicators - (boxley) - (2)
                         I'll claim them for once - (deSitter) - (1)
                             Not entirely so odd - (ben_tilly)
                     missed memo - (rcareaga) - (2)
                         Love you too, sweetheart. -NT - (bepatient) - (1)
                             <smoochies> -NT - (rcareaga)
                 "He expired drooling, incontinent and unsentient." - (mmoffitt) - (33)
                     This is just plain rude and uncivil. - (Arkadiy) - (32)
                         No gray. - (bepatient) - (4)
                             rcareaga. Norm. Uncivil. - (Arkadiy) - (3)
                                 Norm? s/Norm/Mikey -NT - (hnick) - (2)
                                     The RC's reply was to Norm - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                         I'd missed that. Got it. -NT - (hnick)
                         what else would you expect from someone who thinks - (boxley) - (5)
                             Stalin as agrarian reformer? - (rcareaga) - (4)
                                 refering to mikey, not you :0 -NT - (boxley) - (3)
                                     Challenge: Find me saying something nice about Stalin. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                         here - (boxley) - (1)
                                             Reading for Comprehension 101. - (mmoffitt)
                         Sorry. I forgot. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                             IIRC... - (Another Scott)
                         Maybe you're OK with having your country destroyed - (deSitter) - (18)
                             *** KUDOS *** -NT - (mmoffitt)
                             Among other things, it's being devoured by the lack of - (Arkadiy) - (16)
                                 Not true - (deSitter) - (1)
                                     A good standing reply to any post, I guess. - (Arkadiy)
                                 Well...since Reagan was a Republican.. - (bepatient) - (13)
                                     The facts speak for themselves - (deSitter) - (9)
                                         So that speaks for Clinton. - (bepatient) - (8)
                                             Worse than Reagan, tied with Bush 1 - (deSitter)
                                             From the UK... - (pwhysall) - (6)
                                                 does margaret wank? - (boxley) - (5)
                                                     We do? - (pwhysall) - (4)
                                                         Johnson presided over civil rights - (boxley)
                                                         ICLRPD - (jb4) - (2)
                                                             Blasted checkboxes.....**mumble** -NT - (jb4) - (1)
                                                                 You see? LRPD defends itself; enforces polito-prohibition! -NT - (CRConrad)
                                     Who is underestimating it? - (mmoffitt)
                                     Re: Even current Democrats recognize this. - (a6l6e6x)
                                     Well, we agree on this one thing: - (jb4)
         He's probably with Princess, uh, David.. um, Princess Diane. -NT - (Meerkat)
         Shrub speaks - (rcareaga) - (8)
             Re: "TIE-ran-ee." - (a6l6e6x)
             Somebody needs a hug. - (marlowe) - (6)
                 Image hosted by Angelfire. <- YUO = TEH SUKC. -NT - (pwhysall) - (5)
                     Er, Peter... - (inthane-chan) - (4)
                         You fail. - (pwhysall) - (3)
                             Yup, we don't keep up with lusers. Nor do we care. -NT - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                 Clearly you do :) -NT - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                     No. I just haven't classified you as a luser. Yet. -NT - (ben_tilly)
         I often quote him - (broomberg) - (7)
             well having met you I can understand the lying - (boxley)
             Borrowed from the Russ, of course - (Ashton) - (5)
                 I disagree - (broomberg) - (4)
                     He was an emotional moron - (deSitter) - (3)
                         His first wife, - (Ashton) - (2)
                             Re: His first wife, - (deSitter) - (1)
                                 Checkout my Edit, above _____:-\ufffd - (Ashton)
         Re: Gipper gone - (inthane-chan)
         The Good, they do die young... -NT - (hnick)
         Tis only today I twigged. Ifn u'd said Teflon, Ida known who - (dmarker) - (2)
             Perhaps a bit TOO kindly... - (jb4) - (1)
                 ..perhaps on the new Rationing Stamps? -NT - (Ashton)
         Damning w/ faint praise, are we? -NT - (jb4)

It was April the 41st. Being a quadruple leapyear, I was driving in downtown Atlantis. My Barracuda was in the shop, so I was in a rented Stingray... and it was overheating.
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