Well I just wasted half a day

Post #149,146 by tuberculosis 3/28/04 7:49:35 PM 8/21/07 6:24:33 AM Reply	Well I just wasted half a day on the PGI installer and the one Peter pointed me to. Neither one actually installed anything - PGI errored out every time. The other one claimed to be reinitializing the hard disk, installin stuff blah blah blah. Then on reboot RH 7.1 boots up anyhow. And what is this sid, sarge, potato, woody shit? How the FUCK am I supposed to know one from another? Put descriptive names and numbers on stuff fer cryin out loud. I want an OS, I don't want to join a cult with a secret handshake and code words. I have no more time to waste on this crap. Java is a joke, only it's not funny. --Alan Lovejoy Edited by tuberculosis March 28, 2004, 07:51:26 PM EST Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:24:33 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #149,155 by folkert 3/28/04 9:47:22 PM Reply	Okay. Debian has basically 3 current branches Stable == (Currently called Woody)Stable package list and versions. Sometimes people say Stable == Old. Really it means that Stable means just that Few changes barring Security or Major Data Loss bugs. Basically in Maintenance mode. Testing == Next version of Stable (currently called Sarge), Supposed to always be in an installable state (not always the case) Package list can be very volatile. But can become very stable at other times. Currently this testing is is shooting for a frozen Around Middle of April. Also, testing has versions of the software some would condsider very good and recent. Unstable == Unstable. Unstable as the packages are in a constant state of flux. On a a long 4 day weekend, Monday can have as many as as many as 500 packages updated. But, when you understand that something like Postgres in Debian is split into something like 11 packages, versus typically 2 for RedHat or SuSE or Mandrake. Unstable is where there is the latest and greatest software typically. I would also call this the branch for those who understand the Debian dpkg/dselect/apt systems. Okay, so I lied, there is actually 4 branches. Experimental == Major packaging changes, experimental versions of the package versions of things that would not build properly automatically, etc... basically pre-bleeding edge. This is not an "instabllable" branch. You have to include it along with piece from Sid or Sarge. and On the Naming etc... Potato == Debian version 2.2 No longer being Maintained Former Stable. DO NOT USE THIS ONE. Woody == Debian version 3.0 Being Maintained as Stable Sarge == Debian v3.1(or 4.0) or the Next Version of Stable still in a State of Flux Sid == Debian Unstable (will always be too), unstable terms packages are unstable, rapid versioning not unstable as in crashing... alothough this is bound to happen with rapid versioning. (____) == Experimental doesn;t have a named version. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* 'In view of the fact that Microsoft is a condemned monopolist and on the other hand the internal messages and financial transactions of SCO look ever doubtful, Microsoft should be really anxious that to the own company something does not remain sticking from the Gestank of the SCO.' --Plagarized from [link\|http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040322133607169\|GROKLAW]
Post #149,185 by pwhysall 3/29/04 10:58:51 AM Reply	You don't care about sid/sarge/woody. What you care about is the fact that the current version is 3.0r2. Every piece of software ever has had code names for releases. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #151,186 by jb4 4/14/04 6:52:26 PM Reply	Welcome to the world of cutsie-poo Linux naming Where only Peter knows all the magic incantations! :-\ufffd jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #151,213 by pwhysall 4/15/04 1:37:43 AM Reply	Cackle. Mind you, I could have done with some cutesie-poo naming yesterday when it turned out that the reason that our app wouldn't start was because the SYSGEN parameters MIN_PQL_MBYTLM and MIN_PQL_DBYTLM were set inappropriately. Ah, VMS :-) hacks suitably huge values into MODPARAMS.DAT Runs @SYS$UPDATE:AUTOGEN GETDATA REBOOT NOFEEDBACK There. Perfectly straightforward, innit? Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #151,233 by jb4 4/15/04 9:35:35 AM Reply	Sure, it's gibberish bordering on shrubbish... but at least it gives one a clue as to what the fsck is going on. I mean, one (in this business, at least) should have some idea as to what the terms "AUTOGEN", "GETDATA", "REBOOT" and "NOFEEDBACK" might mean. But I still fail to see the connection betwen the word "potato" and anything having to do with computation in the 21st century! (Except, of course, that it's spelled correctly....) jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT

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