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Post #148,982 by tuberculosis 3/27/04 6:56:59 PM 8/21/07 6:18:02 AM Reply	Got a Linux Box - RH 7.1 Need to setup a workgroup server with: CVS - done SSH - done apache - not there and the rpm -voodoo-get-apache ralphed (does anybody actually use this thing?) Sometimes the old ways are best: wget [link\|http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/httpd-2.0.49.tar.gz\|http://www.apache.or...tpd-2.0.49.tar.gz]; gunzip...tar xf... ./configure; make; sudo make install; /usr/local/apache2/bin/apachectl start - voila. Java is a joke, only it's not funny. --Alan Lovejoy Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:18:02 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #148,985 by Steve Lowe 3/27/04 7:01:03 PM Reply	apt-get install apache ----- Steve
Post #148,989 by tuberculosis 3/27/04 7:08:46 PM 8/21/07 6:18:13 AM Reply	bash: apt-get: command not found Java is a joke, only it's not funny. --Alan Lovejoy Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:18:13 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #148,991 by Another Scott 3/27/04 7:12:24 PM Reply	You may want Synaptic (when you get time) [link\|http://voidmain.is-a-geek.net/redhat/redhat_8_apt-get_must_have.html\|Synaptic] info. (Haven't used it myself.) Cheers, Scott.
Post #148,995 by tuberculosis 3/27/04 7:26:28 PM 8/21/07 6:18:17 AM Reply	Their script doesn't work either error: failed dependencies: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.3) is needed by apt-0.5.5cnc6-fr0.rh80.1 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) is needed by apt-0.5.5cnc6-fr0.rh80.1 libelf.so.0 is needed by apt-0.5.5cnc6-fr0.rh80.1 libgcc_s.so.1 is needed by apt-0.5.5cnc6-fr0.rh80.1 libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0) is needed by apt-0.5.5cnc6-fr0.rh80.1 libreadline.so.4 is needed by apt-0.5.5cnc6-fr0.rh80.1 librpm-4.1.so is needed by apt-0.5.5cnc6-fr0.rh80.1 librpmdb-4.1.so is needed by apt-0.5.5cnc6-fr0.rh80.1 librpmio-4.1.so is needed by apt-0.5.5cnc6-fr0.rh80.1 libstdc++.so.5 is needed by apt-0.5.5cnc6-fr0.rh80.1 libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2) is needed by apt-0.5.5cnc6-fr0.rh80.1 Which seems to be the usual sort of thing I get from rpm commands. Is 7.1 some kind of ancient version or something? Java is a joke, only it's not funny. --Alan Lovejoy Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:18:17 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #149,011 by Another Scott 3/27/04 8:14:49 PM Reply	Almost 3 years old.... [link\|http://www.redhat.com/about/presscenter/2001/press_sevenone.html\|7.1 Released 4/16/2001]. You might want to try something newer... Cheers, Scott.
Post #149,013 by tuberculosis 3/27/04 8:18:35 PM 8/21/07 6:19:03 AM Reply	What do those in the know recommend? Not that its going to matter - in a few more hourse I'll probably be done and never have to touch it again. Java is a joke, only it's not funny. --Alan Lovejoy Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:19:03 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #149,015 by Another Scott 3/27/04 8:23:14 PM Reply	I think you know the answers... Greg and Peter would recommend Debian. I'm having good luck with Xandros Deluxe v2 (which is Debian-based), but I'm a complete newbie and it may not be a good distribution for a guru such as yourself. But you really should be able to update 7.1 to whatever form you need (maybe not easily as I'm sure RH would prefer that you upgrade to Fedora), so as you say it really shouldn't matter. I'm glad you're getting it figured out. Good luck! Cheers, Scott.
Post #149,051 by tuberculosis 3/28/04 3:01:19 AM 8/21/07 6:19:45 AM Reply	Where do I get a good bootstrap CD for debian then? Seems like all the links are broken to the various disk images. Also, I'll have to burn the CD on my powerbook - don't think that'll be an issue, but you never know. Java is a joke, only it's not funny. --Alan Lovejoy Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:19:45 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #149,057 by pwhysall 3/28/04 3:11:09 AM Reply	Re: Where do I get a good bootstrap CD for debian then? [link\|http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.fi.debian.org/debian-cd/3.0_r2/i386/\|http://www.mirror.ac...n-cd/3.0_r2/i386/] I'm assuming x86. We'll help you all we can here, but READ THE INSTALLATION MANUAL. (It's FINE) :) Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #149,084 by tuberculosis 3/28/04 10:45:39 AM 8/21/07 6:22:48 AM Reply	That looks like a complete set I'll be downloading until x-mas with those. I want a minimal bootstrap cd for doing a netinst. I found this: [link\|http://archive.progeny.com/progeny/pgi\|http://archive.progeny.com/progeny/pgi] looking at the pgi-woody-i386.iso I'm assuming I can get this, burn it onto a cd from my OS X box, pop it into the server's CD, reboot, and all will be nifty? Java is a joke, only it's not funny. --Alan Lovejoy Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:22:48 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #149,092 by pwhysall 3/28/04 11:11:29 AM Reply	You only really need the first one. But yes, the PGI thing is what you want. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #149,131 by tuberculosis 3/28/04 5:48:23 PM 8/21/07 6:24:25 AM Reply	debootstrap fails every time Tried multiple mirrors including the default - no explanation is offered. Or, rather many expanations offered including, http proxy config (don't need one), mirror being updated, dirty CD, phase of moon wrong. Trying the disk 1 from the archive peter sent me.... Java is a joke, only it's not funny. --Alan Lovejoy Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:24:25 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #149,135 by folkert 3/28/04 6:09:30 PM Reply	The new D-I (Debian Installer) rocks. Beta 3 is out: [link\|http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sid_d-i/\|Pick you architecture for Sid] [link\|http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/\|Pick you architecture for Sarge] Freaking Spectacular. Works nearly on every machine I use. Including a sparc 10 I have, an Ultra Sparc I have installed it on. An Alpha 2100, an Alpha 1000, Only prblems I see isthe Alpha still cannot BOOT off the CD yet when the Drive is a SCSI drive. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* 'In view of the fact that Microsoft is a condemned monopolist and on the other hand the internal messages and financial transactions of SCO look ever doubtful, Microsoft should be really anxious that to the own company something does not remain sticking from the Gestank of the SCO.' --Plagarized from [link\|http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040322133607169\|GROKLAW]
Post #149,146 by tuberculosis 3/28/04 7:49:35 PM 8/21/07 6:24:33 AM Reply	Well I just wasted half a day on the PGI installer and the one Peter pointed me to. Neither one actually installed anything - PGI errored out every time. The other one claimed to be reinitializing the hard disk, installin stuff blah blah blah. Then on reboot RH 7.1 boots up anyhow. And what is this sid, sarge, potato, woody shit? How the FUCK am I supposed to know one from another? Put descriptive names and numbers on stuff fer cryin out loud. I want an OS, I don't want to join a cult with a secret handshake and code words. I have no more time to waste on this crap. Java is a joke, only it's not funny. --Alan Lovejoy Edited by tuberculosis March 28, 2004, 07:51:26 PM EST Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:24:33 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #149,155 by folkert 3/28/04 9:47:22 PM Reply	Okay. Debian has basically 3 current branches Stable == (Currently called Woody)Stable package list and versions. Sometimes people say Stable == Old. Really it means that Stable means just that Few changes barring Security or Major Data Loss bugs. Basically in Maintenance mode. Testing == Next version of Stable (currently called Sarge), Supposed to always be in an installable state (not always the case) Package list can be very volatile. But can become very stable at other times. Currently this testing is is shooting for a frozen Around Middle of April. Also, testing has versions of the software some would condsider very good and recent. Unstable == Unstable. Unstable as the packages are in a constant state of flux. On a a long 4 day weekend, Monday can have as many as as many as 500 packages updated. But, when you understand that something like Postgres in Debian is split into something like 11 packages, versus typically 2 for RedHat or SuSE or Mandrake. Unstable is where there is the latest and greatest software typically. I would also call this the branch for those who understand the Debian dpkg/dselect/apt systems. Okay, so I lied, there is actually 4 branches. Experimental == Major packaging changes, experimental versions of the package versions of things that would not build properly automatically, etc... basically pre-bleeding edge. This is not an "instabllable" branch. You have to include it along with piece from Sid or Sarge. and On the Naming etc... Potato == Debian version 2.2 No longer being Maintained Former Stable. DO NOT USE THIS ONE. Woody == Debian version 3.0 Being Maintained as Stable Sarge == Debian v3.1(or 4.0) or the Next Version of Stable still in a State of Flux Sid == Debian Unstable (will always be too), unstable terms packages are unstable, rapid versioning not unstable as in crashing... alothough this is bound to happen with rapid versioning. (____) == Experimental doesn;t have a named version. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* 'In view of the fact that Microsoft is a condemned monopolist and on the other hand the internal messages and financial transactions of SCO look ever doubtful, Microsoft should be really anxious that to the own company something does not remain sticking from the Gestank of the SCO.' --Plagarized from [link\|http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040322133607169\|GROKLAW]
Post #149,185 by pwhysall 3/29/04 10:58:51 AM Reply	You don't care about sid/sarge/woody. What you care about is the fact that the current version is 3.0r2. Every piece of software ever has had code names for releases. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #151,186 by jb4 4/14/04 6:52:26 PM Reply	Welcome to the world of cutsie-poo Linux naming Where only Peter knows all the magic incantations! :-\ufffd jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #151,213 by pwhysall 4/15/04 1:37:43 AM Reply	Cackle. Mind you, I could have done with some cutesie-poo naming yesterday when it turned out that the reason that our app wouldn't start was because the SYSGEN parameters MIN_PQL_MBYTLM and MIN_PQL_DBYTLM were set inappropriately. Ah, VMS :-) hacks suitably huge values into MODPARAMS.DAT Runs @SYS$UPDATE:AUTOGEN GETDATA REBOOT NOFEEDBACK There. Perfectly straightforward, innit? Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #151,233 by jb4 4/15/04 9:35:35 AM Reply	Sure, it's gibberish bordering on shrubbish... but at least it gives one a clue as to what the fsck is going on. I mean, one (in this business, at least) should have some idea as to what the terms "AUTOGEN", "GETDATA", "REBOOT" and "NOFEEDBACK" might mean. But I still fail to see the connection betwen the word "potato" and anything having to do with computation in the 21st century! (Except, of course, that it's spelled correctly....) jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #151,251 by a6l6e6x 4/15/04 12:04:01 PM Reply	They may rock for you, but both failed here. I tried it on a rather old box my niece was going to throw out. 233 MHz Pentium, 64 MB Ram, 8 GB Maxtor disk. During the "Installing the Debian base system" phase: `No installable kernel found No installable kernel was found in the defined APT Sources The kernel default package is 'kernel-image-2.4.25-1.386' You may try to continue though this rather strange error is probably fatal` Continuing restarts the "Installing the Debian base system" phase, i.e. puts you into an endless loop. Since this is a network install, I was pleased to see that it figured out that the Tulip driver was needed for the NIC. That's an improvement over the Woody CD-ROM install. Alex Sacred cows make the best hamburger. --Mark Twain
Post #151,255 by drewk 4/15/04 12:41:32 PM Reply	Tried Knoppix? I haven't yet heard anyone say it didn't work for them, and installing it do disk is really easy. === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #151,257 by a6l6e6x 4/15/04 1:03:36 PM Reply	No, not yet. Alex Sacred cows make the best hamburger. --Mark Twain
Post #151,260 by ben_tilly 4/15/04 1:24:14 PM Reply	Installing to disk with knoppix may leave your system a mess To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act - [link\|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20\|Nebraska Supreme Court]
Post #151,273 by drewk 4/15/04 3:38:47 PM Reply	True, but after several failed attempts other ways ... === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #148,987 by tuberculosis 3/27/04 7:07:48 PM 8/21/07 6:18:09 AM Reply	Help! Trying to setup twiki - endless 403 errors I'm rapidly approaching stumped. Using apache2 I've added the requisite magic incantation to my httpd.conf file ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/Library/WebServer/cgi-bin/" ScriptAlias /twiki/bin/ "/home/httpd/twiki/bin/" Alias /twiki/ "/home/httpd/twiki/" <Directory "/home/httpd/twiki/bin"> Order allow,deny Allow from all Options +ExecCGI SetHandler cgi-script </Directory> <Directory "/home/httpd/twiki/pub"> Order allow,deny Options FollowSymLinks +Includes AllowOverride None Allow from all </Directory> <Directory "/home/httpd/twiki/data"> deny from all </Directory> <Directory "/home/httpd/twiki/templates"> deny from all </Directory> And in the error log I find: [Sun Mar 28 00:03:54 2004] [error] [client 207.224.48.193] (13)Permission denied: access to /twiki/bin/test-cgi denied In fact, everything is denied - can't see static content in twiki/pub either. All files from twiki down are owned by nobody and all files in the bin dir are executable by anybody. I am able to hit test-cgi in the cgi-bin dir. What else should I check? Java is a joke, only it's not funny. --Alan Lovejoy Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:18:09 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #149,008 by boxley 3/27/04 7:59:58 PM Reply	ls -ld home/httpd ls -ld /home In Bush\ufffds America, fighting terrorism abroad is used as a pretext for vanquishing civil liberties at home. David Podvin questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #149,012 by tuberculosis 3/27/04 8:17:23 PM 8/21/07 6:19:00 AM Reply	Found it - when in doubt, su - nobody and see what you can do from there. So its a twiki - now to figure out how to setup mail service... Java is a joke, only it's not funny. --Alan Lovejoy Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:19:00 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #149,022 by folkert 3/27/04 9:03:58 PM Reply	Here is basically what we have for twiki Change to you config. Shortened and misinfo for reduction of loops. Basically they are essentially good. ServerAdmin twiki@twiki.. DocumentRoot /twiki/html ServerName twiki.iwethey.org ErrorLog /logs/com.twiki-error_log TransferLog /logs/com.twiki-access_log <Directory /twiki/cgi-bin/> AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> <Directory /twiki/html/> AllowOverride All Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> # TWiki-specific configs. ScriptAlias /twiki/bin/ "/twiki/html/twiki/bin/" Alias /twiki/ "/twiki/html/twiki/" <Directory "/twiki/html/twiki/bin"> Options +ExecCGI SetHandler cgi-script Allow from all </Directory> <Directory "/twiki/html/twiki/pub"> Options FollowSymLinks +Includes AllowOverride None Allow from all </Directory> <Directory "/twiki/html/twiki/lib"> deny from all </Directory> <Directory "/twiki/html/twiki/data"> deny from all </Directory> <Directory "/twiki/html/twiki/templates"> deny from all </Directory> # Point the base URL at the Main web WebHome page... Redirect /index.html http://twiki../Main/WebHome Redirect /twiki/index.html http://twiki../Main/WebHome # Allow short URLs for 'twiki/bin/view' Alias /Main /twiki/html/twiki/bin/view/Main Alias /TWiki /twiki/html/twiki/bin/view/TWiki Alias /Know /twiki/html/twiki/bin/view/Know Alias /Test /twiki/html/twiki/bin/view/Test Alias /Iwethey /twiki/html/twiki/bin/view/Iwethey Alias /FUD /twiki/html/twiki/bin/view/Main/FudFighters Alias /SCO /twiki/html/twiki/bin/view/Main/SCOvsIBM -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* 'In view of the fact that Microsoft is a condemned monopolist and on the other hand the internal messages and financial transactions of SCO look ever doubtful, Microsoft should be really anxious that to the own company something does not remain sticking from the Gestank of the SCO.' --Plagarized from [link\|http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040322133607169\|GROKLAW]
Post #149,085 by tuberculosis 3/28/04 10:49:23 AM 8/21/07 6:22:58 AM Reply	Definitely gotta upgrade I think After fiddling with twiki and apache2, trying to get user authentication on the twiki working - the twiki scripts just began hanging - no response, nothing in the logs, just connect and hang. In exasperation I sent the thing a shutdown -r now.....and it hasn't come back (machine is in a remote location). Its sort of there - attempts to ssh back into the machine don't fail - they hang. Ditto http. So I'm ready to start over on this with something modern. I'm gonna need a free Oracle BTW - I know they support redhat - should I expect that it will also work on debian? There are too many options here for my poor head. Java is a joke, only it's not funny. --Alan Lovejoy Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:22:58 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #149,099 by Another Scott 3/28/04 12:27:38 PM Reply	Oracle 9i on Debian Sid and Woody [link\|http://www.the-love-shack.net/oracle-on-sid.html\|Here] is info for Oracle 9i on Sid, last updated August 11, 2003. [link\|http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~owend/free/oracle-linux.html\|Here] is very brief info for Oracle 9iR2 on Woody. HTH a bit. Cheers, Scott.
Post #149,101 by pwhysall 3/28/04 12:30:50 PM Reply	if you want Oracle on Debian... (new thread) Created as new thread #149100 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=149100\|if you want Oracle on Debian...] Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #149,116 by tuberculosis 3/28/04 3:32:54 PM 8/21/07 6:24:04 AM Reply	Drove 60 miles - see message on screen why it didn't reboot "Keyboard error - press F1 to continue" Because - it being meant as a headless server, our host took back the keyboard he loaned us. I thought this OS was supposed to be good for servers? Is there a trick to make that never happen again? Have begun the Debian adventure - installer seems decent - looking forward to apt-get nirvana. Java is a joke, only it's not funny. --Alan Lovejoy Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:24:04 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #149,118 by altmann 3/28/04 3:38:21 PM Reply	Isn't that in the BIOS? -- Chris Altmann
Post #149,122 by tuberculosis 3/28/04 3:59:33 PM 8/21/07 6:24:17 AM Reply	I have no idea YTF do we still have BIOS? Incidentally, the debian install keeps crapping out telling me to look in a mythical log file for more info that doesn't exist. Java is a joke, only it's not funny. --Alan Lovejoy Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:24:17 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #149,125 by inthane-chan 3/28/04 4:42:21 PM Reply	It is in BIOS. Usually, in the "first page" there's a bit that points to "halt on x". Alter until Keyboard isn't an option. "I'll stop calling the current administration 'Orwellian' when they stop using "1984" as a playbook." J. Bradford DeLong
Post #149,198 by ben_tilly 3/29/04 11:28:59 AM Reply	The trick that you want... leave something attached that fools it into thinking that it has a keyboard. And curse commodity hardware. Cheers, Ben "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]

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