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New Re: 70/30? Lucky guy
The real point here:

Some admins understand that the system is not an end-in-itself, that the work it does is the end - and that means accomodating the developers even when it hurts - and...

Some programmers understand they are part of a whole and don't abuse privileges for the sake of tinkerfutzing, rather, stick to their duties - and...

Some people have seen it from both ends and so make the best admins.

-drl
New Not always...
I have never and will never do development in an Enterprise setting. (

I just understand. I give the rights to the people that needs them... a little at a time. Until they screw up, I get more and more comfortable with giving them the perms.

Now once they screw up, no matter how small(or large)... I take the chance to help them fix the problem and go over why they made the mistake and why it is a mistake/problem. Depending on the person, if all goes well, they learn and are better for the issue and I continue to trust them. If the don't learn... well some things will have to be re-earned.

It goes without saying, you take advantage of the situation... when you are trusted... it won't be pretty. And it'll be a long time erasing that black mark.
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New Think I'd rather work for you
.. but with Barry's salary (and his new rumpus/romper? Big Room) :-\ufffd
Lunch time: string quartets from the local college.

It's periodically been suggested, of course - - but, imagine how synergistic might be a Coalition of the er Able, from zIWE ---

And yes: profitable, without being obsessed/depraved along the route to {ugh} {urp}










InCorporation!

Why.. just putting the Gryge's Compleat Disassembly of the Billy-Corp's Nefarious History up on the teleprompter - maybe at Esalen or other fair-weather locale, selling Seminar tickets to the genuinely Anxious-to-become Clueful: alone, might put a [1]Porsche in a few garages
(and maybe a Portia, able to be afforded at last, on other plates).

And that kinda pizzazz is just re the essayists about here; can't imagine what anti-chaos might be wreaked across the country - via a few techno manifestos :-0

Ho. Ho. Whoah.

..OK: some moving would be involved :(


[1] the yearning-to-Be are oft well heeled, since they had to be pretty smart in the first place: for realizin they didn't know shit! really.. while still havin garnered a Big Office, along the way. And stuff.
     Discussion fodder: Are Admins Evil? - (pwhysall) - (19)
         He is whining a bit - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
             Well... - (folkert)
         A key point was: - (a6l6e6x)
         nappy filler - (boxley)
         I can see both sides - (ben_tilly) - (5)
             I heard that Ben... - (folkert) - (1)
                 Why do you assume...? - (ben_tilly)
             Re: I can see both sides - (deSitter) - (2)
                 That isn't a mile - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                     Re: That isn't a mile - (deSitter)
         You know YOU are evil, but pure? - (broomberg) - (2)
             ROFL!!!! - (deSitter)
             Age is nothing to do with it :) - (pwhysall)
         Some are, some aren't - (tuberculosis) - (5)
             70/30? Lucky guy - (drewk) - (4)
                 A-Freakin-Men, me droog! -NT - (folkert)
                 Re: 70/30? Lucky guy - (deSitter) - (2)
                     Not always... - (folkert) - (1)
                         Think I'd rather work for you - (Ashton)

I'll let that picture pass...
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