Cryptome: Secret RIAA meeting. Notes

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SECRET RIAA MEETING

By Anonymous

On Thursday [October 4] there was a closed-door meeting at the
Ritz-Carlton, which was "a direction setting" meeting. The individuals of
note attending were:

Hillary Rosen - RIAA Chief
Steve Heckler - Sony Music
Strauss Zelnick - BMG
Edgar Bronfman - Universal
Gerald Levin - AOL Time-Warner
Ken Berry - EMI
Leonardo Chiariaglione - SDMI Chair (Leaving Soon)
Francis Jones - Codex Data Systems
Fritz Hollings - Senator
Ted Stevens - Senator
Michael Eisner - Disney CEO
Jack Valenti - President, MPAA
Andy Grove - Intel CEO
Lou Gerstner - IBM
Yoishi Morishita - CEO Matsushita
Tsutomo Kawata - CEO Toshiba
Jay Berman - IFPI Chair
Paul England - Microsoft Advanced Cryptography research group

The meeting began this morning at 9 AM with a keynote from Hillary Rosen,
the topic being digital rights management and stopping internet piracy.
Much of the topic of the topic was relating to the pending lawsuit againts
fastrack, grokster, musiccity, and kazaa.

Some notable excerpts of her keynote include:
"The new generation of rogue file sharing applications have set a disturbing
precedent. The encryption technology used is clearly aimed at thwarting
our anti-piracy operations. We must go after the parties involved,
and force them to give up their encryption keys so our anti-piracy operations
can begin reporting those who infringe upon our works to their internetservice
providers"

"We will develop whatever technologies necessary to make our music pirate
proof, so legitimate services can flourish online. Recent trials of
four anti-rip technologies have been extremely encouraging, as no one has
been able to circumvent them".

"We will work with our friends in Washington to develop tough new laws that
go after the hackers, and file sharers themselves. Such is the aim
of proposed new legislation under the Security Systems Standardization act
developed by our friends present here today."

"We are working with sound card manufacturers to implement technology that
will block the recording of watermarked content in both digital and analog
form."

The reference here is to the 4C verance watermark that the RIAA will require.
"The industry has spent over one hundred million dollars in research and
development to develop technologies to stop piracy of our member's works."

"We must work together with computer manufacturers to find ways to block
the spread of legacy content."

"The failure of the CPRM specification to be applied to computer hard drives
was a giant step back for the publishing, music, and entertainment industry,
and we will work to develop a new specification that accomplishes what CPRM
would have done."

"The drop in CD sales can be directly attributed to the new generation of
file swapping services. Because of their de-centralized nature, it
is impossible to determine whether usage has surpassed that of Napster at
its heyday."

"We must ask that the safeharbor provision of the DMCA be removed.
Because of the magnitude of the problem, Internet service providers can no
longer be shielded from the wrath of the law."

"Once we stem piracy, we will be able to raise prices in order to regain
lost profits from piracy."

After the keynote, there was a symposium. Notable things brought up:

Universal will be using Key 2 Audio on all CD's sold starting in Q2 2002.

AOL Time Warner has said they will begin to experiment with Safe Audio and
Cactus Data Shield, and implement copy protections on all its CD's in Q3
2002.

Sony's Heckler stated that, "Once consumers can no longer get free music,
they will have to buy the music in the formats we choose to put out."

Disney's Eisner stated, "Privacy laws are our biggest impediment to us obtaining
our objectives."

Gerald Levin stated, "There has been an unconfirmed break in the DVD audio
encryption scheme in Russia. We cannot ignore this threat, as DVD Audio
represents the future of this company. We will have to be vigilant,
and prosecute anyone who posts a program or source code to defeat CPPM in
an extremely expeditious manner."

Paul England stated, "By tweaking hardware slightly, we can stem content
piracy by making software attacks a thing of the past."

One particularly disturbing fact is that Codex Data System's
[link|http://cryptome.org/dirty-secrets2.htm|DIRT] software is supposed
to be restricted to law enforcement agencies, yet the RIAA, MPAA, and IFPI
have all purchased it, and use it routinely to monitor servers which are
suspected of infringing content, yet are password protected such as servers
which require one to sign up for a password account like hotline servers
that have no guest download.

It isn't because I've ever used Napster or any other file sharing or rippng technology. (I did rip a few songs from a couple of CD's, but since I don't have anything but my computer on which to play MP3's, I found it just more convenient to use the CD. Deleted the rips.) It's because there isn't anything worth buying you idiots!

You start "copy protecting" (as if that will last very long) your CD's, and you're going to go the way of all the software companies that vainly tried to hold onto copy protection. Copy protected software doesn't sell. Neither will copy protected CD's.

In a way, I'm happy to see this. They are digging their grave, not with shovels but with piledrivers, front end loaders, dump trucks, and any other heavy machinery you care to mention. In five years, many of those companies will be history. Unfortunately, their legacy may very well live on long past their demise.

Rest in eternal torment, you buttheads.

Post #12,394 by kmself 10/9/01 6:08:23 AM Reply	Cryptome: Secret RIAA meeting. Notes [link\|http://cryptome.org/riaa-secret.htm\|[link\|http://cryptome.org/riaa-secret.htm\|http://cryptome.org/riaa-secret.htm]] SECRET RIAA MEETING By Anonymous On Thursday [October 4] there was a closed-door meeting at the Ritz-Carlton, which was "a direction setting" meeting. The individuals of note attending were: Hillary Rosen - RIAA Chief Steve Heckler - Sony Music Strauss Zelnick - BMG Edgar Bronfman - Universal Gerald Levin - AOL Time-Warner Ken Berry - EMI Leonardo Chiariaglione - SDMI Chair (Leaving Soon) Francis Jones - Codex Data Systems Fritz Hollings - Senator Ted Stevens - Senator Michael Eisner - Disney CEO Jack Valenti - President, MPAA Andy Grove - Intel CEO Lou Gerstner - IBM Yoishi Morishita - CEO Matsushita Tsutomo Kawata - CEO Toshiba Jay Berman - IFPI Chair Paul England - Microsoft Advanced Cryptography research group The meeting began this morning at 9 AM with a keynote from Hillary Rosen, the topic being digital rights management and stopping internet piracy. Much of the topic of the topic was relating to the pending lawsuit againts fastrack, grokster, musiccity, and kazaa. Some notable excerpts of her keynote include: "The new generation of rogue file sharing applications have set a disturbing precedent. The encryption technology used is clearly aimed at thwarting our anti-piracy operations. We must go after the parties involved, and force them to give up their encryption keys so our anti-piracy operations can begin reporting those who infringe upon our works to their internetservice providers" "We will develop whatever technologies necessary to make our music pirate proof, so legitimate services can flourish online. Recent trials of four anti-rip technologies have been extremely encouraging, as no one has been able to circumvent them". "We will work with our friends in Washington to develop tough new laws that go after the hackers, and file sharers themselves. Such is the aim of proposed new legislation under the Security Systems Standardization act developed by our friends present here today." "We are working with sound card manufacturers to implement technology that will block the recording of watermarked content in both digital and analog form." The reference here is to the 4C verance watermark that the RIAA will require. "The industry has spent over one hundred million dollars in research and development to develop technologies to stop piracy of our member's works." "We must work together with computer manufacturers to find ways to block the spread of legacy content." "The failure of the CPRM specification to be applied to computer hard drives was a giant step back for the publishing, music, and entertainment industry, and we will work to develop a new specification that accomplishes what CPRM would have done." "The drop in CD sales can be directly attributed to the new generation of file swapping services. Because of their de-centralized nature, it is impossible to determine whether usage has surpassed that of Napster at its heyday." "We must ask that the safeharbor provision of the DMCA be removed. Because of the magnitude of the problem, Internet service providers can no longer be shielded from the wrath of the law." "Once we stem piracy, we will be able to raise prices in order to regain lost profits from piracy." After the keynote, there was a symposium. Notable things brought up: Universal will be using Key 2 Audio on all CD's sold starting in Q2 2002. AOL Time Warner has said they will begin to experiment with Safe Audio and Cactus Data Shield, and implement copy protections on all its CD's in Q3 2002. Sony's Heckler stated that, "Once consumers can no longer get free music, they will have to buy the music in the formats we choose to put out." Disney's Eisner stated, "Privacy laws are our biggest impediment to us obtaining our objectives." Gerald Levin stated, "There has been an unconfirmed break in the DVD audio encryption scheme in Russia. We cannot ignore this threat, as DVD Audio represents the future of this company. We will have to be vigilant, and prosecute anyone who posts a program or source code to defeat CPPM in an extremely expeditious manner." Paul England stated, "By tweaking hardware slightly, we can stem content piracy by making software attacks a thing of the past." One particularly disturbing fact is that Codex Data System's [link\|http://cryptome.org/dirty-secrets2.htm\|DIRT] software is supposed to be restricted to law enforcement agencies, yet the RIAA, MPAA, and IFPI have all purchased it, and use it routinely to monitor servers which are suspected of infringing content, yet are password protected such as servers which require one to sign up for a password account like hotline servers that have no guest download. `-- Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com] What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?`
Post #12,429 by jb4 10/9/01 11:40:30 AM Reply	"You just keep thinkin' Butch...that's what you're good at" "We will develop whatever technologies necessary to make our music pirate proof, so legitimate services can flourish online. Recent trials of four anti-rip technologies have been extremely encouraging, as no one has been able to circumvent them". No one, that is, except the rapidly-becoming-legendary Ed Felton, who was able to defeat them all, but was not allowed to publish his results due to threats from the DCMA. So, just keep sticking yer damfool heads in the sand, RIAA fucks. Remember, when decryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have decryption. (And, boy, will they use it!) jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
Post #12,432 by jb4 10/9/01 11:46:49 AM Reply	Heed the calls of the yellow-bellied monopolist: This bird tends to dress in dark blue pinstriped plumage of other, similar species, but can be easily distinguished by its soft, yellow, underbelly (which is rarely shows in public, but can often bee seen in gathering places called "boardrooms"). It is als distinguished by its various cries, such as: "Once we stem piracy, we will be able to raise prices in order to regainlost profits from piracy." "Once consumers can no longer get free music, they will have to buy the music in the formats we choose to put out." They are also know for shitting all over the place, especially where they eat, and randomly killing members of that endangered species: The Goose that Laid the Golden Egg. jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
Post #12,448 by wharris2 10/9/01 1:35:06 PM Reply	Sirs and ma'ams of RIAA It isn't because I've ever used Napster or any other file sharing or rippng technology. (I did rip a few songs from a couple of CD's, but since I don't have anything but my computer on which to play MP3's, I found it just more convenient to use the CD. Deleted the rips.) It's because there isn't anything worth buying you idiots! You start "copy protecting" (as if that will last very long) your CD's, and you're going to go the way of all the software companies that vainly tried to hold onto copy protection. Copy protected software doesn't sell. Neither will copy protected CD's. In a way, I'm happy to see this. They are digging their grave, not with shovels but with piledrivers, front end loaders, dump trucks, and any other heavy machinery you care to mention. In five years, many of those companies will be history. Unfortunately, their legacy may very well live on long past their demise. Rest in eternal torment, you buttheads. Who knows how empty the sky is In the place of a fallen tower. Who knows how quiet it is in the home Where a son has not returned. -- Anna Akhmatova (1889-1966)

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