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Post #123,064 by deSitter 10/28/03 10:49:00 AM Reply	The Russian Way? As mentioned earlier, the Russians had an approach to spaceflight based on incremental improvements. This seems ideally suited for programming - inside out design - make the core work, add layers of functionality - as opposed to design-everything-up-front, which only produces bloated junk. Russian physics and math books are extremely good because they are practically oriented - get something done and then worry about the details. A friend who was familiar stated that this practical approach was ingrained in the Russian character, from having to improvise, deal with harsh political climates and bureaucracy, make do with scanty resources. This again indicates that they would make great software people. -drl
Post #123,068 by Arkadiy 10/28/03 11:17:10 AM Reply	Inside out works better for small outsides A typical Russian programmer (me included, although I fight it) starts by making sure that the algorithms work. It's fine for smaller projects, but on large user-oriented one can lead to programmer-driven UIs. In the extreme cases, you get disconnected screens and a programmer who say "But the program works: look, I put data in the database, and the result comes out perfectly correct". -- OK, George W. is deceptive to be sure. Dissembling, too. And let's not forget deceitful. He is lacking veracity and frankness, and void of sooth, though seemingly sincere in his proclivity for pretense. But he did not lie. [link\|http://www.jointhebushwhackers.com/not_a_liar.cfm\|Brian Wimer]
Post #123,159 by ben_tilly 10/28/03 9:57:04 PM Reply	You just perfectly described someone I knew No, he wasn't Russian. Hungarian. Did most of his training in Hungaria, and I think some in Russia. I always put it down to the fact that he started programming in the 1960s. But now I wonder... Cheers, Ben "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #123,233 by Arkadiy 10/29/03 10:46:33 AM Reply	We Russians programmed in 60s up until 90s :) -- The rich, as usual, are employing the elected. -- [link\|http://unfit2print.blogspot.com/\|http://unfit2print.blogspot.com/]

How Offshore Outsourcing Failed Us - (lincoln) - (39) - Oct. 22, 2003, 03:09:19 PM EDT

As I've so often said.. - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 22, 2003, 03:21:39 PM EDT

Thoughts.... - (gdaustin) - Oct. 22, 2003, 10:08:41 PM EDT

I wonder if all who could code/manage to US standards - (Arkadiy) - (22) - Oct. 22, 2003, 03:53:22 PM EDT

Not even close - (deSitter) - (21) - Oct. 22, 2003, 04:44:37 PM EDT

It was more than the Java that was bad. - (admin) - (3) - Oct. 22, 2003, 05:13:30 PM EDT

Seen it before - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Oct. 23, 2003, 12:50:32 PM EDT

How long before PHBs get burned? -NT - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Oct. 23, 2003, 01:00:26 PM EDT

Re: How long before PHBs get burned? - (deSitter) - Oct. 23, 2003, 08:33:04 PM EDT

Question: - (jb4) - (16) - Oct. 24, 2003, 12:39:20 PM EDT

Well, there's also . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (15) - Oct. 24, 2003, 12:51:28 PM EDT

'zacly - (deSitter) - Oct. 25, 2003, 03:38:58 PM EDT

How widespread? - (Ashton) - (13) - Oct. 26, 2003, 05:37:27 PM EST

Go look in the trash - (scoenye) - (4) - Oct. 27, 2003, 10:16:30 AM EST

***farkinboggle*** -NT - (deSitter) - Oct. 27, 2003, 10:17:53 AM EST

Seconded - (drewk) - (2) - Oct. 27, 2003, 10:27:35 AM EST

Send that one in to Shark Tank. -NT - (admin) - (1) - Oct. 27, 2003, 10:29:24 AM EST

Good call, will do -NT - (drewk) - Oct. 27, 2003, 10:48:00 AM EST

Very - (Andrew Grygus) - (7) - Oct. 27, 2003, 11:15:34 AM EST

So, given your experience, can it be fixed? - (Arkadiy) - (4) - Oct. 27, 2003, 11:36:29 AM EST

The success of the "My Documents" folder . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Oct. 27, 2003, 11:55:48 AM EST

Abstractions - and *Bob*/Linux - (Ashton) - (2) - Oct. 27, 2003, 01:57:53 PM EST

Not just a rumor... - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Oct. 27, 2003, 02:02:07 PM EST

Re: Not just a rumor... - (deSitter) - Oct. 27, 2003, 03:56:19 PM EST

Related article on security . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Oct. 27, 2003, 11:41:29 AM EST

This isn't a computer-only issue - (drewk) - Oct. 27, 2003, 02:47:40 PM EST

My favorite part... - (mmoffitt) - (7) - Oct. 22, 2003, 05:40:51 PM EDT

Mine: - (imric) - Oct. 22, 2003, 07:13:41 PM EDT

re "Team" - (Ashton) - (5) - Oct. 23, 2003, 04:09:40 AM EDT

Re: re "Team" - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 23, 2003, 05:15:08 AM EDT

Re: re "Team" - (andread) - Oct. 23, 2003, 09:27:48 AM EDT

Not alone. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Oct. 24, 2003, 09:33:47 AM EDT

Human Resources and the Cult Mentality - (orion) - (1) - Oct. 24, 2003, 09:51:17 AM EDT

It's hard for me to tell - (Ashton) - Oct. 25, 2003, 12:30:58 AM EDT

Been there - done that - tried to pick up the pieces - (dlevitt) - (5) - Oct. 27, 2003, 04:47:09 PM EST

Don't know about India, but - (Arkadiy) - (4) - Oct. 28, 2003, 10:14:01 AM EST

The Russian Way? - (deSitter) - (3) - Oct. 28, 2003, 10:49:00 AM EST

Inside out works better for small outsides - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Oct. 28, 2003, 11:17:10 AM EST

You just perfectly described someone I knew - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Oct. 28, 2003, 09:57:04 PM EST

We Russians programmed in 60s up until 90s :) -NT - (Arkadiy) - Oct. 29, 2003, 10:46:33 AM EST

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