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Post #99,633
by folkert
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5/1/03 10:56:42 AM
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New When was the last time?
When was the last time you installed from a bootable tape?

I haven't done it since HP-UX v9.04. EVERYTHING, and *I* mean every *NIX system I have installed booted from CD or Network to start and Install. The same could be done for and upgrade on most "commercial" *NIX.

I usually chose the Online upgrade packages as needed and wanted approach. I never did fully upgrade from AIX 4.2.0fp6 to AIX 4.3.3fp9, as the only real differences were the packages for hardware support. HP-UX, the upgrade from v9.0x to 10.2 was really simple. Put the CD in while running you system and do a "upgrade when possible" style of upgrade. Allowed me to do the upgrade in the background as people were using it.

Oh the last time I booted from a tape was to do a system recovery, which BTW, was easy cheesy. This whole thing about getting away from traditional UNIX is easy in talk, tough in practice.

Easy to install == typically a nightmare to maintain
PITA to install == typically a dream afterwards

That holds with most "R&R" aimed operating systems *ARE* indeed easy to install, you wouldn't want John Q Public Paying for "R&R" support, would you?

That also hold, with most "Install and Maintain" aimed operating systems, they are nearly self maintaining. Then again, you wouldn't have this "revenue base" to rely upon.
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Post #99,638
by deSitter
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5/1/03 11:03:32 AM
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New Traditional = MesoMIPic Era
i.e. before CDROMs crawled out from under the rocks, following the UNIX ELE (Windows 3.1).

(Ever installed from 8" floppies? :)
-drl
Post #99,640
by hnick
5/1/03 11:10:21 AM
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New Sun OS came on a tape in '86. More recent on CD
Don't know when they made the switch over.
     Ok Debian Lovers. :-| - (bepatient) - (42) - April 28, 2003, 11:09:13 AM EDT
         IIRC, picking the 2.4 kernel in dselect - (tseliot) - April 28, 2003, 11:23:37 AM EDT
         Feh. - (pwhysall) - (37) - April 28, 2003, 11:48:41 AM EDT
             Or do what Peter said. :-) -NT - (admin) - April 28, 2003, 11:53:12 AM EDT
             Don't "Feh" me. - (bepatient) - (35) - April 28, 2003, 01:30:37 PM EDT
                 Feh - (kmself) - (34) - April 28, 2003, 04:18:55 PM EDT
                     My point in the overall bitchiness... - (bepatient) - (29) - April 28, 2003, 05:45:27 PM EDT
                         +5, Insightful;. -NT - (static) - April 30, 2003, 08:55:15 AM EDT
                         Why Debian's installer "sucks". - (pwhysall) - (27) - April 30, 2003, 10:30:56 AM EDT
                             Possibly - (bepatient) - (26) - April 30, 2003, 11:04:41 AM EDT
                                 Okay... - (folkert) - (25) - April 30, 2003, 12:00:26 PM EDT
                                     Ditto, with a few additions: - (admin) - (24) - April 30, 2003, 12:28:41 PM EDT
                                         Right. - (bepatient) - (23) - April 30, 2003, 01:17:14 PM EDT
                                             Re: Right. - (deSitter) - (5) - April 30, 2003, 01:21:42 PM EDT
                                                 All you have to do, is really try the thing. - (folkert) - April 30, 2003, 03:25:31 PM EDT
                                                 Begone, vile thing. - (pwhysall) - (3) - April 30, 2003, 04:09:50 PM EDT
                                                     Re: Begone, vile thing. - (deSitter) - (2) - April 30, 2003, 04:12:23 PM EDT
                                                         Riiiiiiight. -NT - (pwhysall) - (1) - April 30, 2003, 04:21:15 PM EDT
                                                             Mostly.. - (deSitter) - April 30, 2003, 04:36:54 PM EDT
                                             I am NOT defending the install. - (admin) - (10) - April 30, 2003, 02:12:38 PM EDT
                                                 Ok already. - (bepatient) - (9) - April 30, 2003, 02:31:07 PM EDT
                                                     "For alot of folks that probably wouldn't be true." - (admin) - (8) - April 30, 2003, 02:45:54 PM EDT
                                                         Re: "For alot of folks that probably wouldn't be true." - (deSitter) - (1) - April 30, 2003, 02:53:10 PM EDT
                                                             I didn't say the assertion was true. - (admin) - April 30, 2003, 02:56:19 PM EDT
                                                         But it could be... - (bepatient) - (5) - April 30, 2003, 04:19:21 PM EDT
                                                             BBBBBBbut.... - (folkert) - (3) - April 30, 2003, 07:06:34 PM EDT
                                                                 Don't worry. - (bepatient) - (2) - May 1, 2003, 10:35:03 AM EDT
                                                                     gfolkert wields his new WoMS: - (folkert) - (1) - May 1, 2003, 10:59:39 AM EDT
                                                                         Hey greg, new install question (new thread) - (drewk) - May 1, 2003, 11:02:22 AM EDT
                                                             ObLRPD: This is untested and you're my guinea pig. -NT - (admin) - April 30, 2003, 07:12:28 PM EDT
                                             Some illumination, perhaps. - (static) - (5) - May 1, 2003, 08:59:11 AM EDT
                                                 Re: Some illumination, perhaps. - (deSitter) - (4) - May 1, 2003, 10:28:28 AM EDT
                                                     When was the last time? - (folkert) - (2) - May 1, 2003, 10:56:42 AM EDT
                                                         Traditional = MesoMIPic Era - (deSitter) - May 1, 2003, 11:03:32 AM EDT
                                                         Sun OS came on a tape in '86. More recent on CD - (hnick) - May 1, 2003, 11:10:21 AM EDT
                                                     I deliberately didn't mention any vendor Unix. - (static) - May 2, 2003, 08:48:59 AM EDT
                     Yep, the "piggy" install is really worth a shot, Beep. - (a6l6e6x) - April 28, 2003, 07:40:52 PM EDT
                     I take direct exception. (new thread) - (folkert) - April 28, 2003, 08:15:16 PM EDT
                     Tried Piggy - (Steven A S) - (1) - May 3, 2003, 08:39:14 PM EDT
                         Root password recovery - (kmself) - May 4, 2003, 04:28:37 PM EDT
         Hey, this hurts! Then don't do that... ;-) - (admin) - April 28, 2003, 11:52:34 AM EDT
         Re: Ok Debian Lovers. :-| - (rickmoen) - (1) - May 10, 2003, 06:43:40 AM EDT
             Keep reading... - (bepatient) - May 10, 2003, 10:30:57 AM EDT

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