Talking to yourself, again?

Post #93,146 by cybermace5 3/30/03 7:26:19 PM Reply	Talking to yourself, again? You aren't even reading my posts. The underestimation was not of what Saddam would do. The underestimation was of how far his troops/Fedayeen would go, even to the point of killing their own civilians and soldiers. And it may not have been that much of an underestimation...there is a large contingent of special forces performing covert operations in Iraq right now. They have been there since well before the battle, and are engaging Fedayeen with snipers and car bombs. There are things happening there that pale anything Hollywood could dream up.
Post #93,166 by Brandioch 3/30/03 10:11:14 PM Reply	That's why you're living in a fantasy. The underestimation was not of what Saddam would do. The underestimation was of how far his troops/Fedayeen would go, even to the point of killing their own civilians and soldiers. But this has been done in the past. Even BEFORE the "war" started there were "reports" that they might be staging fake "attacks" on their civilians and blaming the US for it. But we are SURPRISED when they have no problem killing their civilians. Fascinating. And it may not have been that much of an underestimation...there is a large contingent of special forces performing covert operations in Iraq right now. Okay, we were surprised, but not really surprised. And, if you would read the other articles, that "large contingent of special forces" is the reason why the "war" is having the problems it is. Rummy vetoed the generals' request for more troops. He wanted a high-tech, small-footprint army to go in. So that "large contingent of special forces" is a symptom of the failure, not the success.
Post #93,225 by cybermace5 3/31/03 12:28:40 PM Reply	Re: That's why you're living in a fantasy. You've convinced me. No, seriously. That was a surprisingly lucid post. Not one hahahahaha. I'm not ready to pass judgement on how the war is being run yet, but yeah it shouldn't have been a surprise. It was supposed to be a big part of why we went over there. And spec ops is pretty handy in isolated situations, but you still need enough tanks and enough guys holding weapons. I mean, geez, even in Starcraft or C&C you lose if you try to climb the tech tree too quickly. You gotta have marines on the ground or their "weak" units will destroy you. You'd think the military's wargames would include something along those lines. Maybe they have a better idea of what's going on, but they certainly should have been expecting anything and everything. Mistake: underestimating how dirty your opponent will fight.

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