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New Re: What were you actually saying ???
China can only claim "surviving" because each successive regime change kept roughly the same boundaries (sometimes). They have had as much of a rocky past as anyone else.

In my original post I was making the point that China appears to be holding itself up as an example to follow, while it's obvious they haven't got it right yet, and never have. Just like the rest of the world.
New A backdown -- 'China *appears* to be' ...

No you did *not* say 'China appears to be' - you wrote ...

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They have a great history, of brutal dictatorships of dazzling grandeur and massive populations in abject poverty, to draw from.
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I don't see any such words or imputation.

Doug M


Spectres from our past: Beware the future when your children & theirs come after you for what you may have been willing to condone today - dsm 2003


Motivational: When performing activities, ask yourself if the person you most want to be would do, or say, it - dsm 2003
New Re: A backdown -- 'China *appears* to be' ...
You can mince semantics all day, but it never helps your case to grasp at that straw.
New Clap clap clap


Spectres from our past: Beware the future when your children & theirs come after you for what you may have been willing to condone today - dsm 2003


Motivational: When performing activities, ask yourself if the person you most want to be would do, or say, it - dsm 2003
     Interesting, brief Chinese commentary - (rcareaga) - (50)
         Re: Interesting, brief Chinese commentary - (cybermace5) - (49)
             So you agree they might know what they're talking about then -NT - (jake123) - (1)
                 they certainly have experience with what doesn't work -NT - (cybermace5)
             What a crock of s*** - (dmarker) - (46)
                 he's american schooled and untravelled, whadya expect :-) -NT - (boxley) - (3)
                     The why shoot his mouth off on topics he knows f'all about ? - (dmarker) - (2)
                         I'm told that 'debate' is not even an optional course - (Ashton)
                         Look at the facts. - (Brandioch)
                 Re: What a crock of s*** - (cybermace5) - (41)
                     Hah..!____Gehabt, kinder.__Over --> Oz. -NT - (Ashton) - (2)
                         Ill let doug get stuck in then dibs on seconds -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                             glad it will be interesting -NT - (cybermace5)
                     Thanks for chance to debate this ... - (dmarker) - (37)
                         Re: Thanks for chance to debate this ... - (cybermace5) - (12)
                             Well how long has america been enlighted by your standard? - (boxley) - (3)
                                 Re: Well how long has america been enlighted by your standar - (cybermace5) - (2)
                                     But back to the original original point - (jake123) - (1)
                                         Re: But back to the original original point - (cybermace5)
                             Your definition is now too broad and meaningless - (dmarker) - (7)
                                 hey we didnt stop governmental genocide - (boxley)
                                 Re: Your definition is now too broad and meaningless - (cybermace5) - (5)
                                     What were you actually saying ??? - (dmarker) - (4)
                                         Re: What were you actually saying ??? - (cybermace5) - (3)
                                             A backdown -- 'China *appears* to be' ... - (dmarker) - (2)
                                                 Re: A backdown -- 'China *appears* to be' ... - (cybermace5) - (1)
                                                     Clap clap clap -NT - (dmarker)
                         Well, this was a dud. -NT - (cybermace5) - (23)
                             You are the dud!. Pulled grenade out of pin with your teeth - (dmarker) - (22)
                                 Re: You are the dud!. Pulled grenade out of pin with your te - (cybermace5) - (21)
                                     Tell me 1 'point' you made - - (dmarker) - (20)
                                         Re: Tell me 1 'point' you made - - (cybermace5) - (19)
                                             Straw Woman - now who is Googling and who knows China? - (Ashton) - (18)
                                                 how gratifying - (rcareaga) - (17)
                                                     Re: how gratifying - (cybermace5) - (15)
                                                         Re: how gratifying - (rcareaga) - (14)
                                                             Re: how gratifying - (cybermace5) - (13)
                                                                 have you travelled and visited any other countries? - (boxley)
                                                                 you forgot the "born in a log cabin" bit - (rcareaga) - (11)
                                                                     What...! - (cybermace5) - (10)
                                                                         Re: What...! - (rcareaga) - (9)
                                                                             Re: What...! - (cybermace5) - (8)
                                                                                 Degenerating threads -endup in circles & then fly up own ass - (dmarker)
                                                                                 Query: - (inthane-chan)
                                                                                 You need to get out more - (jake123) - (5)
                                                                                     Sneaky qustion, there..____ betcha no-one wants to bite. - (Ashton)
                                                                                     Re: You need to get out more - (cybermace5) - (3)
                                                                                         LRPD Candidate (new thread) - (inthane-chan)
                                                                                         Re: You need to get out more - (jake123)
                                                                                         10 points for the lions to lawyers quip <grin> -NT - (dmarker)
                                                     Mea maxima culpa. - (Ashton)

Yeah, it was some sort of corporate sabotage.
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