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1) USB - as mentioned in my reply to [link|/forums/render/user?username=madodel|madodel], [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=92308|Post #92308], the USB controllers act like 1.1 controllers until a 2.0 device is plugged in.

2) mis-read the screen about the APM version. APM driver 10.070 was loaded, but the system's APM level is 0. It's 0 because the motherboard uses ACPI instead of APM. I googled up a [link|http://www.mail-archive.com/acpi-os2%40netlabs.org/|mailing list archive] started by Netlabs in November 2002. Don't think they're too far along yet as Netlab's site doesn't mention the mailing list anywhere.

As far as the eCS blob goes - now that the SCSI cable's plugged in the boot sequence lets me select "Legacy SCSI". However, it still has the long pause before it starts booting off SCSI. I even tried having SCSI as the only boot option :-/
Darrell Spice, Jr.                      [link|http://www.spiceware.org/cgi-bin/spa.pl?album=./Artistic%20Overpass|Artistic Overpass]\n[link|http://www.spiceware.org/|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
New ACPI
There's a chance that Daniela Engert might take on building an ACPI PSD. That would be interesting, because OS2APIC.PSD is one of the key files that permits SMP on SMP OS/2, the other ones being os2krnl, os2ldr, and doscall1.dll. I don't know if she'd be trying to deal with SMP or not, but might be because one of the motivations is to get to work with Hyperthreading. The big question is whether she has the time to do it or not. That would be quite cool as it could go a long way to fixing the power management issues around a lot of the newer computers too, and mean that OS/2 will continue to run on x86 for a while to come; as "legacy free" machines (ie- ones where you can't tell the hardware what to do;) become more and more common.
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New So what's the hardware verdict on Soyo Ath vs Abit P4?
Hi Darryl,

Are you happy with either of the recent hardware combinations you've tried with eCS? Lately I've been a fan of Soyo Dragon+ boards (seemed wonderful until I had to turn off Turbo mode in the BIOS to get it to recognize the USB port - no problems otherwise), and I've used an ABIT K7V (IIRC) Athlon system without problems either. Both of these boards are running Win2k.

As I read your reports, you've been able to get eCS running with most/all of the peripherals on either system, but have trouble applying eCS fixpacks. Is that the gist of it?

My OS/2 system is running Warp 3 Connect on a 486/133 SCSI box. I'm considering finally buying a new box for Warp and/or eCS, but your reports make me nervous. :-/ It makes me more strongly consider that Virtual PC for OS/2 might be the way to go.

What hardware would you recommend? Is it worth the hassle for a dedicated eCS box? Thanks.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Re: So what's the hardware verdict on Soyo Ath vs Abit P4?
Considering I'd get various hangs at different times(booting, already running) I think I had flacky hardware with the Soyo/Athlon. For the most part everything has been fine with the Abit/P4.

I was having a problem installing Visual Age C++ 3.0 - the second phase of installation(after the reboot) never happens. Somebody else posted something about this a while back at the forums at [link|http://www.ecomstation.com|http://www.ecomstation.com] though I can no longer find that thread.

I'd never had a problem installing VAC on eCS before, though I realized that I'd not installed any fix packs like I had done this time. So I reinstalled eCS and I was able to get VAC installed by doing it before any of the fixpacks. Today I'll be reinstalling the fixpacks.

The only fixpack I've consistently had problems with was the TCP/IP one. Jack mentioned that others with a Matrox video card have seen the same problem - so it's not the motherboard/CPU. Even though the install hangs, TCP/IP seems to function fine. I have not yet installed the TCP/IP fixpack on the Abit/P4 so I'll report back the results later today.
Darrell Spice, Jr.                      [link|http://www.spiceware.org/cgi-bin/spa.pl?album=./Artistic%20Overpass|Artistic Overpass]\n[link|http://www.spiceware.org/|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
     New Hardware - Take 2 - (SpiceWare) - (19)
         UserID/Password - (jake123) - (6)
             question - (SpiceWare) - (5)
                 I'm not a hundred percent sure. - (jake123) - (4)
                     I'd update them to 1.1 - (SpiceWare) - (3)
                         BFE - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                             Ah, our version up here is BFA - (jake123) - (1)
                                 I know my folx would approve - (SpiceWare)
         just a couple issues so far - (SpiceWare) - (8)
             Which devices? - (jake123) - (3)
                 Re: Which devices? - (SpiceWare) - (2)
                     Re: Which devices? - (madodel) - (1)
                         it needed the OHCI lines - (SpiceWare)
             update - (SpiceWare) - (3)
                 ACPI - (jake123)
                 So what's the hardware verdict on Soyo Ath vs Abit P4? - (Another Scott) - (1)
                     Re: So what's the hardware verdict on Soyo Ath vs Abit P4? - (SpiceWare)
         more info on blob pause - (SpiceWare) - (2)
             That one's documented - (jake123) - (1)
                 Sounds good - (SpiceWare)

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