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Post #8,321

by kmself

9/11/01 12:49:39 PM

Perspective: 25-50K workers at WTC

US Vietnam war dead were 40,000. This is of a comperable scale, in one incident.

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Post #8,333

by jake123

9/11/01 1:32:13 PM

Count Vietnamese deaths in Vietnam to get a true comparison

Not to put too fine a point on it, but Vietnam was a far more major thing than this is...


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Recap of known events as of 9:50 AM Central - (Silverlock) - (97) - Sept. 11, 2001, 10:44:06 AM EDT

My first question is: - (jb4) - (13) - Sept. 11, 2001, 10:48:43 AM EDT

Well..... - (jbrabeck) - Sept. 11, 2001, 10:58:21 AM EDT

It's *always* an inside job - (drewk) - Sept. 11, 2001, 10:59:52 AM EDT

Did the Pittsburgh plane hit anything? - (SpiceWare) - (10) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:07:49 AM EDT

Uncomfirmed report that it was shot down. - (Silverlock) - (6) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:15:46 AM EDT

F16 shadowed plane from LAX to Washington DC also? - (brettj) - (5) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:44:45 AM EDT

Just heard on radio. 4 planes still unaccounted for 10:55 am -NT - (Silverlock) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:50:21 AM EDT

Cross-country flights... - (admin) - (3) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:54:06 AM EDT

No accident that they were Cross-country flights - (brettj) - (2) - Sept. 11, 2001, 12:14:19 PM EDT

Not according to a post below this - (drewk) - (1) - Sept. 11, 2001, 12:24:34 PM EDT

Palestinians celebrating in the streets - (bluke) - Sept. 11, 2001, 02:48:14 PM EDT

I'd bet the pilots were dead long before any crashes -NT - (GBert) - (1) - Sept. 11, 2001, 12:09:17 PM EDT

The FAA received communications after one hijacking - (brettj) - Sept. 11, 2001, 12:30:51 PM EDT

It landed in a forested area - (brettj) - Sept. 11, 2001, 02:11:27 PM EDT

not a good day - (cwbrenn) - (29) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:00:55 AM EDT

Was thinking same thing in reverse: I know who planned this! - (CRConrad) - (28) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:35:04 AM EDT

Just think of Clancy as a white hat hacker. - (marlowe) - (25) - Sept. 11, 2001, 02:25:23 PM EDT

Level of security - (jbrabeck) - (24) - Sept. 11, 2001, 02:53:32 PM EDT

Some things we could do. - (marlowe) - (23) - Sept. 11, 2001, 07:04:35 PM EDT

You haven't been reading comp.risks. - (static) - (3) - Sept. 11, 2001, 07:21:41 PM EDT

Never mind how vast it is. - (marlowe) - (2) - Sept. 11, 2001, 07:42:21 PM EDT

Price tag = very high. - (static) - (1) - Sept. 12, 2001, 02:14:41 AM EDT

Or alternately, do it or your liability insurance premiums.. - (marlowe) - Sept. 12, 2001, 05:07:17 PM EDT

sleep gas into the cabin - (boxley) - (2) - Sept. 11, 2001, 08:00:32 PM EDT

Now there's an avenue to explore. - (marlowe) - (1) - Sept. 12, 2001, 02:06:03 AM EDT

cheap low tech solution think stagecoach and shotgun -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 12, 2001, 08:39:30 AM EDT

Some concerns - (Steven A S) - Sept. 12, 2001, 08:58:04 AM EDT

Some different things which could be done. - (Another Scott) - (14) - Sept. 12, 2001, 10:40:56 AM EDT

Reaction - (jbrabeck) - (7) - Sept. 12, 2001, 10:53:23 AM EDT

Carry-ons - (admin) - (5) - Sept. 12, 2001, 11:03:45 AM EDT

Guess you're right - (jbrabeck) - (2) - Sept. 12, 2001, 11:33:55 AM EDT

Kidding aside... - (admin) - (1) - Sept. 12, 2001, 11:57:38 AM EDT

That's the point: put the kiddens aside -NT - (drewk) - Sept. 12, 2001, 12:02:02 PM EDT

Make 'em check 'em. - (addison) - (1) - Sept. 12, 2001, 11:38:28 AM EDT

Sounds like a great idea - (jbrabeck) - Sept. 12, 2001, 11:48:35 AM EDT

Instead of locked cockpit door - (Steven A S) - Sept. 12, 2001, 11:46:16 AM EDT

Would be simpler... - (addison) - (5) - Sept. 12, 2001, 05:26:03 PM EDT

Not as effective, IMO. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Sept. 12, 2001, 05:38:55 PM EDT

What if cockpit door lock was controlled from ground? - (drewk) - (1) - Sept. 12, 2001, 05:51:38 PM EDT

More complexity; pilot is master of the plane. - (Another Scott) - Sept. 12, 2001, 06:07:52 PM EDT

More, really. - (addison) - (1) - Sept. 12, 2001, 06:48:04 PM EDT

More simple - (wharris2) - Sept. 12, 2001, 09:19:44 PM EDT

Debt of Honor. - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Sept. 11, 2001, 03:17:54 PM EDT

Thanks for correction... Couldn't remember which TC book! -NT - (jbrabeck) - Sept. 11, 2001, 03:43:36 PM EDT

Crash at Camp David also - (brettj) - (16) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:01:31 AM EDT

Well, that pretty much pins it: Islamics or Israelis -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (8) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:04:30 AM EDT

Could also be Bin Laden -NT - (Silverlock) - (5) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:13:01 AM EDT

That would fall firmly under Islamics. - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:16:58 AM EDT

Yer right, I'm not thinking clearly today. Very upset. -NT - (Silverlock) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:18:16 AM EDT

Bin Laden announced unprecedented attack 3 weeks ago - (admin) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:18:44 AM EDT

Why not the Columbians? - (jbrabeck) - (1) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:21:32 AM EDT

Columbians never heard of Camp David. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:22:47 AM EDT

Didn't we get a member of one of the drug cartels in just - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:20:26 AM EDT

Drug cartels don't do suicide attacks . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:22:03 AM EDT

Source? Haven't heard anything - (wharris2) - (4) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:33:01 AM EDT

CBS or CNN, I think. - (brettj) - (3) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:39:55 AM EDT

Got four planes and a car bomb right now - (wharris2) - (2) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:49:56 AM EDT

Car bomb was a false alert. - (admin) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:53:05 AM EDT

My wife just left our house - (drewk) - Sept. 11, 2001, 12:18:29 PM EDT

Who reported this? - (jbrabeck) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:59:08 AM EDT

Pennsylvania plane - (wharris2) - Sept. 11, 2001, 01:29:12 PM EDT

Yassir Arofat and Tony Blair offered their condolences - (brettj) - (23) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:26:30 AM EDT

While Palestinians dance in the streets - (wharris2) - (22) - Sept. 11, 2001, 12:16:30 PM EDT

That is one of my biggest fears. - (brettj) - (2) - Sept. 11, 2001, 12:27:22 PM EDT

Not to mention atheist fanatics. - (marlowe) - (1) - Sept. 11, 2001, 01:00:14 PM EDT

Fanatics in general. Good point. - (brettj) - Sept. 11, 2001, 01:35:52 PM EDT

Unfortunately, the only way we can gain their respect . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (18) - Sept. 11, 2001, 01:07:34 PM EDT

Really wish there was a way I could disagree with you -NT - (drewk) - (1) - Sept. 11, 2001, 01:15:44 PM EDT

So do I -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - Sept. 11, 2001, 01:48:43 PM EDT

Hit `em so they can't get up. - (marlowe) - (15) - Sept. 11, 2001, 02:15:57 PM EDT

You guys are unbelievable - (bluke) - (1) - Sept. 11, 2001, 02:40:57 PM EDT

It's amazing, isn't it? - (static) - Sept. 11, 2001, 07:23:54 PM EDT

Declaration of War - (Andrew Grygus) - (8) - Sept. 11, 2001, 02:45:09 PM EDT

You are advocating the commission of war crimes - (bluke) - (4) - Sept. 11, 2001, 02:51:01 PM EDT

Mass destruction should be avoided . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Sept. 11, 2001, 03:07:38 PM EDT

The same number of innocents... - (bluke) - (2) - Sept. 11, 2001, 03:21:46 PM EDT

Good logic - (drewk) - (1) - Sept. 11, 2001, 03:33:09 PM EDT

Why not? - (bluke) - Sept. 11, 2001, 03:49:44 PM EDT

And Americans accuse Israel of using excessive force???????? -NT - (bluke) - (2) - Sept. 11, 2001, 03:32:49 PM EDT

I do not think you will find that I have . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Sept. 11, 2001, 03:36:36 PM EDT

Maybe not... - (bluke) - Sept. 11, 2001, 03:45:29 PM EDT

I seem to recall something about the "Crusades".... - (addison) - (3) - Sept. 11, 2001, 03:48:38 PM EDT

Yabut. - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 11, 2001, 04:17:03 PM EDT

Everybody remembers the Crusades - (GBert) - Sept. 11, 2001, 04:41:04 PM EDT

Something I might want to reconsider slightly? - (marlowe) - Sept. 11, 2001, 07:32:54 PM EDT

Bin Laden - (admin) - (7) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:34:55 AM EDT

Report on NPR... - (inthane-chan) - (6) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:39:13 AM EDT

CNN says bin Laadan denied responsibility - (jake123) - (3) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:42:18 AM EDT

Anyone with any sense would deny it - (wharris2) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:45:17 AM EDT

Oh yeah, and he'll be believed. - (admin) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:52:00 AM EDT

bin Laden or Taliban denies? - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 11, 2001, 02:58:32 PM EDT

Probably a dozen unknown groups will claim responsibility. - (Andrew Grygus) - Sept. 11, 2001, 11:43:25 AM EDT

Re: Report on NPR... - (addison) - Sept. 11, 2001, 01:22:21 PM EDT

Tower collapses - (wharris2) - Sept. 11, 2001, 12:35:38 PM EDT

Perspective: 25-50K workers at WTC - (kmself) - (1) - Sept. 11, 2001, 12:49:39 PM EDT

Count Vietnamese deaths in Vietnam to get a true comparison - (jake123) - Sept. 11, 2001, 01:32:13 PM EDT

Re: Recap of known events as of 9:50 AM Central - (Arkadiy) - Sept. 12, 2001, 01:03:34 AM EDT

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