Horowitz

Post #83,093 by rcareaga 2/21/03 12:01:28 AM Reply	Horowitz Take a look at his beliefs...his actions...his causes..and now he's kicked out of the left because he feels they've gone too far. My problem with Horowitz is that he was a doctrinaire thug a generation ago and he's a doctrinaire thug today. The doctrines have changed, but tactically he remains a Stalinist. You, of course, are too witlessly young as yet to grasp this. cordially, "Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
Post #83,094 by bepatient 2/21/03 12:09:43 AM Reply	Actually...he pretty much admits.. ...to dropping the Stalinist (he calls communist) belief structure of his youth. (not that young)...but still carries a pretty good torch for individual liberty and civil rights....but thinks that the pendulum has gone too far...especially in universities...and that the "radical left" as he calls them are actually squelching the free exchange of ideas. Tactically? I won't bicker about that with you. Anyone with their mind made up and a really strong POV could be called a "tactical Stalinist" or a doctrinaire thug. Even some folks here :) You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #83,095 by rcareaga 2/21/03 12:16:45 AM Reply	Re: Actually...he pretty much admits.. I call Horowitz a thug tactically and doctrinally. He was a street criminal, rhetorically speaking, in 1967 and he's a street criminal today--he's just working the other side of the street. It's tough for me to see how any rational person can take him seriously: he's the spiritual heir of Roy Cohn. not-so-cordially, "Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
Post #83,100 by bepatient 2/21/03 12:33:05 AM Reply	Far be it from anyone... ...to bring alternative viewpoints to this group. Seems that differing views just cannot be tolerated. If you don't want to take him seriously, then don't. I linked to it based on something I heard on the radio on my way home from work...thought it might stir something up in here. Lord knows if somebody thinks a little differently...they cannot be rational. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #83,106 by rcareaga 2/21/03 1:15:12 AM Reply	Re: Far be it from anyone... So you heard something on the radio on the way home...and you regard criticism of Horowitz as intolerance? This is the mindest that imagines "liberal media bias." God help us all. "Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
Post #83,117 by bepatient 2/21/03 6:55:00 AM Reply	Could be over-reacting.. ...but the first response after posting was a personal attack...not by you granted. Then "no rational person" should be able to take him seriously...not so cordially... Attitude man...its the attitude. Tell me..."Horowitz is a loonie...has been from the 60's...still one now just working for he other side"...I'd agree...instead you get the "how could...nobody should..." type of criticism. You know...the exact stuff he bitches about existing on campus. Yes. I consider that intolerance...because veiled in the criticism of the messenger is the utter dismissal of any consideration of his views as "irrational". HE won't help. HE's a hands-off guy (or gal). You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]

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