My first question is:

Post #8,261 by jb4 9/11/01 10:48:43 AM Reply	My first question is: How are these bastards hijacking all these planes? Have we finally reached the point where the fat-asses who scan you at the checkpoints entring the gate areas are completely ineffective? jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
Post #8,268 by jbrabeck 9/11/01 10:58:21 AM Reply	Well..... It doesn't have to be passengers who have done the hijacking. A concerted effort, such as this seems to be, could very easily involve flight attendents, pilots, grounds crew, or anyone else who would have legitimate access to the plane while on the ground. Then again, when was the last time someone checked your shaving cream, perfume, cologne, or any other "normal" item to ensure that it really was what it was said to be? Would you have been willing to wait while the security check points really did squirt each can, bottle or whatever to ensure "complete" safety? It would not be difficult to get something onboard it one was determined to do so. [link\|mailto:jbrabeck@mn.mediaone.net\|Joe]
Post #8,270 by drewk 9/11/01 10:59:52 AM Reply	It's always an inside job After billions of dollars spent on increased security measures directed against the passengers, nobody has been willing to acknowledge the fact that every single instance of terrorist activity against a U.S. plane has involved help from the inside. This may have changed in the couple of years since I saw the report, but at the time there wasn't a single known instance of someone circumventing the passenger screening to get a device aboard a plane in the U.S. Once again, we've cracked down on the wrong people, inconveniencing the "little guy" when it's always been someone running the show going rogue. This is my sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Post #8,274 by SpiceWare 9/11/01 11:07:49 AM Reply	Did the Pittsburgh plane hit anything? If not, I suspect the pilot took the plane down on purpose. Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #8,279 by Silverlock 9/11/01 11:15:46 AM Reply	Uncomfirmed report that it was shot down. www.fark.com has a discusion going with international posters. Larger group than us, able to get more reports. "Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." --Thomas Jefferson
Post #8,297 by brettj 9/11/01 11:44:45 AM Reply	F16 shadowed plane from LAX to Washington DC also? I've heard this claim (unconfirmed) also. Notice that all 4 hijacked planes so far were heading to California. (3 to LAX, 1 to SFO)
Post #8,301 by Silverlock 9/11/01 11:50:21 AM Reply	Just heard on radio. 4 planes still unaccounted for 10:55 am "Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." --Thomas Jefferson
Post #8,305 by admin 9/11/01 11:54:06 AM Reply	Cross-country flights... Have lots of people and fuel on board. Regards, -scott anderson
Post #8,308 by brettj 9/11/01 12:14:19 PM Reply	No accident that they were Cross-country flights ... or so it seems. These terroists have done their homework. People are calling this the worst, most cowardly act of terrorism in World History. I only hope that this terrible act brings the countries of the world closer together. I can't imagine any religious group or nationality rejoicing over this crime against humanity. The best way to show these madmen that they can not intimidate people is for the world to band together. I pray that the entire world condemns this action and finds those responsible.
Post #8,312 by drewk 9/11/01 12:24:34 PM Reply	Not according to a post below this Someone reporting celebrations in the streets in the middle east. This is my sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Post #8,345 by bluke 9/11/01 2:48:14 PM Reply	Palestinians celebrating in the streets I can see them on TV here celebrating in the West Bank, Gaza and Lebanon. Why does this surprise you, these are the same people who started with the hijacking of planes in the late 1960's and the same people who backed Saddam Hussein and celebrated his war.
Post #8,307 by GBert 9/11/01 12:09:17 PM Reply	I'd bet the pilots were dead long before any crashes
Post #8,315 by brettj 9/11/01 12:30:51 PM Reply	The FAA received communications after one hijacking ... but the report on CNN? earlier this morning did not disclose who communicated with the FAA.
Post #8,336 by brettj 9/11/01 2:11:27 PM Reply	It landed in a forested area I saw the footage earlier where it plummeted at a 45 degree angle into the ground. Witnesses said the plane was at about 1000 feet without the landing gear being down and then it rose abruptly and then dipped back down towards the trees. They said there were no large pieces of the plane left.

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