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New The vile French
The SF Chronicle's excellent Jon Carroll weighs in:

People who had never had an opinion about France before, people who had previously confined their attacks to Bill Clinton, Teddy Kennedy, Hillary Clinton and, oh yes, Bill Clinton, are now brimming with expertise on the morale-sapping nature of French culture.

Sound like anyone we know?

[link|http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/02/18/DD55221.DTL|http://www.sfgate.co...02/18/DD55221.DTL]

cordially,
"Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
New We have been dissing the magic man etc since 1995 or so
around here does that count? Since this is a political commentary it might be better served in that forum. Good column.
thanx,
bil
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]

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\ufffdOmni Gaul Delenda est!\ufffd Ceasar
New Amazing research.
Attributing French Fries to the French.

They'd be awfully pissed off at that...since they hate the Belgians that invented them.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New "French" fries
The blue light indicates that a jest was intended.

cordially,
"Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
New I knew he was kidding...
...but crediting the French with something created by the Belgians is a cultural no-no. There are lots of nasty Belgian jokes told by the French...these are their version of "polack jokes"
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Re: I knew he was kidding...
lots of nasty Belgian jokes told by the French

And don't forget the Python competition a generation ago to come up with a disparaging term for the Belgians. Second runner-up: "The Sprouts." First runner-up: "The Phlegms." Winner: "Goddamn fat stinking Belgian bastards."

cordially,
"Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
New Almost had...
...but now chuckle at the memories as they come flooding back.

You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Get it right:
"Miserable fat Belgian bastards."

;-)
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Re: Get it right:
"Miserable fat Belgian bastards." --Are you quite certain here? I grant that it has been nearly thirty years since I saw the sketch, but the phrasing I cited is the one that lodged, or appeared to lodge, in memory. Of course, the Pythons occasionally varied their bits in recordings, live performances, etc--for our present purposes I think we must needs regard the original television series as canonical--but now I'm mildly curious to know which of us is correct here.

cordially,
"Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
New Re: Get it right:
Your search - "goddamn fat stinking belgian bastards" - did not match any documents.

Whereas:

[link|http://www.graphicszone.net/monty_python/scripts/Series_3/94.htm|http://www.graphicsz...s/Series_3/94.htm]

amongst many others from searching for "miserable fat belgian bastards" on Google. ;-)
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Oh, jeez, Google...
(heel of hand thuds several times on right temple)

Passing strange that it didn't occur to me, since I Google as much as the next guy. Could it be that, in contemplating the question, I had cast my mind so thoroughly back to 1974 that online avenues of inquiry did not present themselves as considerations? Could it be that I'm looking for a complicated explanation for a simple brain-fart?

Anyway, I stand amply corrected.

cordially,
"Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
New I thought it was
"Bloody Stinking Belgium Bastards!"
lincoln
"Four score and seven years ago, I had a better sig"
[link|http://users3.ev1.net/~bconnors/resume.htm|VB/SQL/Tandem resume]
[link|mailto:bconnors@ev1.net|contact me]
New Bah! Everybody knows that Belgium doesn't exist!
Somebody just wants you to THINK it does -- but it's all an [link|http://zapatopi.net/belgium.html|evil conspiracy!]


   [link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
New sure it does, belch in the bottom and phlem on top
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]

questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
\ufffdOmni Gaul Delenda est!\ufffd Ceasar
New :-D ROFL.
New Donnervetter! - you've found a *marlowe-clone* site !
Mein schatz hats rosafarben-gef\ufffdrbt so gern..

y las otras canci\ufffdnes de los son que terminal embotado
(and other songs of the terminally dull)
"Transported to a surreal landscape, a young girl kills the first woman she meets, and then teams up with three complete strangers to kill again."
-- Rick Polito's That TV Guy, via Rick Moen
New OT: Mein Gott, es hat einen Bart!
New Es hat? Ich hab' "er hat" gedackt. Oder meinst du das Bild?
[link|mailto:jbrabeck@attbi.com|Joe]
New Ich habe ihn 'es' genannt, um ein bisschen gemein zu sein.
(Or, for the less Teutonic-speaking among us, "I called him 'it', in order to be a little mean." :-)


   [link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
New Ich hab' da\ufffd nie gedakt, da\ufffd du gemein sein kannst!
or
I would never have thought, that you could be mean!

CRC, sind Sie ein Sie oder bist du ein du? and please feel free to correct my grammer. As stated in Oh Pun, it's been 20 years since I've practiced my German.
[link|mailto:jbrabeck@attbi.com|Joe]
New Oh, als Schwede bin ich ganz bestimmt ein Du - ich Duze alle
The Swedes officially abandoned their word corresponding to "Sie", "ni" (No Monty Python jokes, please -- it's pronounced "nee"), in... Uh, 1968? -67? Thereabouts. And since I grew up there from 1969, I'm definitely more Swedish than German in my (a-)social manners; I even Tutoie les Francais, if I'm not consciously reminding myself to Vous them.

Heck, the specific region of Sweden where I grew up (Dalarna, or 'Dalecarlia' as I've seen it rendered in English), was known for its egalitarian manners even *before* the Du-reform... There's a wonderful old joke about a rustic meeting Prince Bertil(*) for the first time, sometime loong before Swedes started calling everybody 'du' -- except the king, whom we *still* call 'Your Majesty'. Anyway, the point is, this fellow -- quite possibly some local notable, an alderman or town councillor or something; I can't remember -- says to the prince (correctly called "Your Royal Highness") something which works in German, too: "hier Duzen wir alle, ausser dich und deinem Bruder!"




(*): The uncle, or possibly grand-uncle, of our current King Carl XVI Gustaf. He died about a decade ago; had lived his life as a conscientious royal, the perpetual stand-in first for his monarch and father (or brother), then for his monarch and nephew (or grand-nephew). Hmm, if I remember correctly about it being "your brother" the yokel uses to refer to the king in that joke, then Bertil and "Cal Gustf"(+) must be grand-uncle and grand-nephew, since the latter took over the throne from his grandfather, his father having died young. Except, in his younger days Bertil wasn't averse to risking his life; he raced cars (under some pseudonym, probably) with such enthusiasm that he was known as "the Motor Prince" until the day he died.

(+): Our current king was/is a dyslexic; that's how he signed his name on a rock down in the old copper mine in Falun($). I saw it myself, when I went down there with my class on a school trip in fifth or sixth grade; he had, ISTR, been about the same age when he wrote it. The mine was cool enough, but the high point of the trip was when I and my best friend came across a book store that had SF paperbacks on sale -- I must have bought three or four; Bester, Williamson... At that age, we still read the Swedish translations, of course.

($): The provincial capital of Dalarna/'Dalecarlia', home of the world's oldest stock corporation, Stora Kopparbergs Bergslag AB, which ran the mine from ~1300 AD or something up into this century; at its peak, in the 17th century, it produced more than half the world's production of copper. Nowadays, they're in wood, pulp, and paper, and apparently officially changed their name to just "STORA" some years ago.


   [link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
New Aha.. soviel f\ufffdr Faszination mit dem ' Duesy ' automobil :-\ufffd
New Passen Sie es auf!
Wir k\ufffdnnten an der Geburt getrennt worden sein...

Now if I can ever get a round tuit and fire up the didgital chimera .. you'll see what I meanst.

:-\ufffd
New Das, mein Alter, glaub' ich kaum... (new thread)
Created as new thread #82575 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=82575|Das, mein Alter, glaub' ich kaum...]


   [link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
     The vile French - (rcareaga) - (23)
         We have been dissing the magic man etc since 1995 or so - (boxley)
         Amazing research. - (bepatient) - (13)
             "French" fries - (rcareaga) - (8)
                 I knew he was kidding... - (bepatient) - (7)
                     Re: I knew he was kidding... - (rcareaga) - (6)
                         Almost had... - (bepatient)
                         Get it right: - (admin) - (4)
                             Re: Get it right: - (rcareaga) - (2)
                                 Re: Get it right: - (admin) - (1)
                                     Oh, jeez, Google... - (rcareaga)
                             I thought it was - (lincoln)
             Bah! Everybody knows that Belgium doesn't exist! - (CRConrad) - (3)
                 sure it does, belch in the bottom and phlem on top -NT - (boxley)
                 :-D ROFL. -NT - (Another Scott)
                 Donnervetter! - you've found a *marlowe-clone* site ! - (Ashton)
         OT: Mein Gott, es hat einen Bart! -NT - (CRConrad) - (7)
             Es hat? Ich hab' "er hat" gedackt. Oder meinst du das Bild? -NT - (jbrabeck) - (4)
                 Ich habe ihn 'es' genannt, um ein bisschen gemein zu sein. - (CRConrad) - (3)
                     Ich hab' da\ufffd nie gedakt, da\ufffd du gemein sein kannst! - (jbrabeck) - (2)
                         Oh, als Schwede bin ich ganz bestimmt ein Du - ich Duze alle - (CRConrad) - (1)
                             Aha.. soviel f\ufffdr Faszination mit dem ' Duesy ' automobil :-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton)
             Passen Sie es auf! - (Ashton) - (1)
                 Das, mein Alter, glaub' ich kaum... (new thread) - (CRConrad)

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