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We've had three long years of this.

Bryce hates an ill-defined thing he calls "OO".

Bryce likes XBase and procedural languages of that ilk.

So far, so good, so what?

The problem is that Bryce thinks that everyone else wants to hear how inferior, overhyped, mis-sold, bloated, verbose, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, OO is by comparison to procedural methods. (Actually, to be perfectly accurate, Bryce invented something called "P/R", where the R is for "Relational", as if procedural programs talked to no other kind of database and OO programs talked to anything but). He persistently trolls comp.object as if the denizens of that newsgroup have some kind of responsibility to "prOOve" that the aforementioned ill-defined (and clearly ill-understood by Bryce) "OO" is better than his precious "P/R" and "TOP" (Table-Oriented-Programming) methods.

And he thinks they want to hear it again, and again, and again, and again.

He won't stop. It's not enough for anyone to say "I don't *care* what you use, Bryce, I don't WANT to program procedurally".

And that, coupled with the fact that he's *astoundingly* resistant to the cluestick on any subject he gets involved with, is why he receives the reaction from people like CRC that he does.

Don't be thinking this came out of the blue, because it didn't.
--
Peter
Shill For Hire
New Re: Context
I've been watching this for more than three years. I am aware of all the "pleasant" properties that you mentioned. I am just trying to point out that the best way to prvent a long tirade by Bryce is not to scream "Shut Up!" but to stop talking altogether.
New Re: "p/r"
>> (Actually, to be perfectly accurate, Bryce invented something called "P/R", where the R is for "Relational", as if procedural programs talked to no other kind of database and OO programs talked to anything but). <<

Only approximately 10 to 20 percent of comp.object regulars complain about the "p/r" suite as a reference to a technique. Thus, you seem a minority.

Yes, you can connect OO to RDBMS, but they tend to overlap and fight over territory.


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     Admitting to shortcuts, any other fessups? - (tablizer) - (21)
         sure - (boxley)
         Yes: I all too often used to use Delphi the wrong way. - (CRConrad) - (16)
             tryin' to start sumpin mista? - (tablizer) - (15)
                 Let's not get too side-tracked, hmm? - (static) - (2)
                     Yeah, let's not get side-tracked with OO BS -NT - (tablizer) - (1)
                         Play nice, ya hear? -NT - (pwhysall)
                 So much for participating in YOUR discussion, on YOUR terms. - (CRConrad) - (11)
                     Bryce Blipvert - (pwhysall) - (2)
                         Reminds me of long, hierarchy-happy class names - (tablizer) - (1)
                             Well, I avoid them, too. - (static)
                     Your wording was askin' for it - (tablizer) - (7)
                         Re: Your wording was askin' for it - (wharris2)
                         Oh shut up, you freaking moron. - (CRConrad) - (5)
                             Now, now... - (Arkadiy) - (3)
                                 Context - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                     Re: Context - (Arkadiy)
                                     Re: "p/r" - (tablizer)
                             reply - (tablizer)
         What programmer doesn't? - (static) - (2)
             What artisan or craftsman of any kind doesn't? - (mhuber) - (1)
                 And sometimes their "garbage" is quite good - (tonytib)

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