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Post #76,674
by deSitter
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1/24/03 11:09:29 AM
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New Re: merging browsing into the OS.
Not at all, in fact I'm hoping I can move everyone to desktop Linux eventually. I will not buy XP machines. If I'm forced to buy Windows it will be Windows 2000.

The truth is, the only decent UI to date technically is WPS, and that has usage issues for the hoi polloi.

MS is too dumb to have a master plan. Have you ever seen anyone actually USE Active Desktop? For all practical purposes, IE is used like any other application - in spite of it really being welded to the OS. Windows is a stupid as ever, with no well-defined line between the hardware and the UI - it's just more stable now, after 8 years of the same thing. (It amazes me that in all this time, a decent competitor has not emerged.)

-drl
Post #76,711
by mmoffitt
1/24/03 1:04:28 PM
1/24/03 1:06:36 PM
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New Re: A decent competitor.
To take on the beast would require money that only Gates/Balmer/Allen/etc. has. That means that one would require "venture capital". But as Stewart Alsop testified before a Senate hearing, before Win2K shipped iirc, there is no way, even in the heyday of the late 1990's that anyone with a plan for an OS could possibly get funding.

It is no coincidence that Linux emerged as the singleton competitor: if you had a better idea for an OS and you tried to play by conventional capitalist rules, your air supply was cut off before you could draw your first breath. It had to be a grass-roots, community effort outside conventional bizness.

And don't underestimate MS's intellect. There are some very smart people working for them. Misguided, yes; Greedy, yes; Hell bent on world domination and equipped with a "take no prisoners" attitude, yes; ethically and morally challenged, yes; but stupid, no.

Edit:
Actually I have seen quite a few people using "Active Desktop." When I visited a friend working in the Charlotte office of Microsoft, nearly everyone there was using it.

bcnu,
Mikem
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Post #76,720
by deSitter
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1/24/03 1:13:54 PM
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New There is one way
Make a VM oriented OS that can run "personalities".
-drl
Post #76,762
by mmoffitt
1/24/03 3:44:59 PM
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New Perhaps, but...
you better do it in your spare time. Because no one, and I mean no one is going to float you enough money to get it off the ground. But, I repeat myself. ;-)
     Making money off of Linux: HP and IBM - (marlowe) - (38) - Jan. 22, 2003, 02:46:20 PM EST
         What? No applause? Cmon O My Brothers! - (deSitter) - (22) - Jan. 22, 2003, 09:47:36 PM EST
             Oh, I cheer. Even if I didn't post. - (imric) - Jan. 22, 2003, 10:04:29 PM EST
             Stuff it. - (admin) - (1) - Jan. 22, 2003, 10:28:48 PM EST
                 Seconded - (Yendor) - Jan. 23, 2003, 01:07:17 AM EST
             Re: What? No applause? Cmon O My Brothers! - (rickmoen) - (1) - Jan. 23, 2003, 11:42:49 AM EST
                 Guess Not - did you? -NT - (deSitter) - Jan. 23, 2003, 11:53:55 AM EST
             As long as the profit is subservient to the code, sure. - (tseliot) - (16) - Jan. 23, 2003, 01:47:59 PM EST
                 Meaningless statement - (deSitter) - (15) - Jan. 23, 2003, 01:51:04 PM EST
                     Think "Microsoft" - (Brandioch) - (11) - Jan. 23, 2003, 01:55:00 PM EST
                         Bad development, not a master plan - (deSitter) - (10) - Jan. 23, 2003, 02:03:40 PM EST
                             There was a cultural attitude there. - (inthane-chan) - Jan. 23, 2003, 02:21:53 PM EST
                             "DOS isn't done 'til Lotus won't run." It's cultural. QED. -NT - (Another Scott) - Jan. 23, 2003, 02:52:40 PM EST
                             Re: merging browsing into the OS. - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Jan. 24, 2003, 12:54:52 AM EST
                                 Re: merging browsing into the OS. - (deSitter) - (3) - Jan. 24, 2003, 11:09:29 AM EST
                                     Re: A decent competitor. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Jan. 24, 2003, 01:06:36 PM EST
                                         There is one way - (deSitter) - (1) - Jan. 24, 2003, 01:13:54 PM EST
                                             Perhaps, but... - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 24, 2003, 03:44:59 PM EST
                             Say that again. - (Brandioch) - (2) - Jan. 24, 2003, 07:43:18 AM EST
                                 Mozilla is just an application - (deSitter) - (1) - Jan. 24, 2003, 11:03:06 AM EST
                                     Ummm, incorrect. - (Brandioch) - Jan. 24, 2003, 01:54:26 PM EST
                     Okay, Mr. low-context. - (tseliot) - (2) - Jan. 23, 2003, 01:57:18 PM EST
                         Re: Okay, Mr. low-context. - (deSitter) - (1) - Jan. 23, 2003, 01:59:55 PM EST
                             Up to a point. -NT - (tseliot) - Jan. 23, 2003, 02:01:52 PM EST
         All that money and they still cant get a decent UI onto it -NT - (tuberculosis) - (14) - Aug. 21, 2007, 12:42:48 PM EDT
             Nope - (deSitter) - Jan. 23, 2003, 03:48:22 PM EST
             Well, I was given the opportunity to use... - (folkert) - (12) - Jan. 23, 2003, 11:08:57 PM EST
                 Sweating the details - (drewk) - Jan. 24, 2003, 08:57:35 AM EST
                 Check out Logitech. - (inthane-chan) - (4) - Jan. 24, 2003, 10:54:46 AM EST
                     Second on Logitech - (tjsinclair) - (3) - Jan. 24, 2003, 02:21:32 PM EST
                         Thirded - (SpiceWare) - Jan. 24, 2003, 04:30:48 PM EST
                         What? Still using corded mice? - (tonytib) - (1) - Jan. 24, 2003, 05:37:49 PM EST
                             Yup - (tjsinclair) - Jan. 24, 2003, 07:02:34 PM EST
                 Switch to graphite mode - (tuberculosis) - (5) - Jan. 24, 2003, 05:12:24 PM EST
                     Other desktop theming options - (tjsinclair) - Jan. 24, 2003, 07:07:22 PM EST
                     Vive la NeXT! -NT - (deSitter) - Jan. 24, 2003, 09:27:48 PM EST
                     It's not really a matter of Color... - (folkert) - (2) - Jan. 24, 2003, 10:54:05 PM EST
                         I entered a room where the floor was so cunningly laid... - (cforde) - (1) - Jan. 25, 2003, 12:31:52 AM EST
                             Always one in every group!!! ;) -NT - (folkert) - Jan. 25, 2003, 09:40:59 AM EST

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