Jon Carroll on appeasement

Post #73,875 by rcareaga 1/10/03 10:03:03 AM Reply	Jon Carroll on appeasement Carroll's column has become about the only reason I daily feed a quarter to the SF Chronicle vending machines. [link\|http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/01/10/DD210441.DTL\|http://www.sfgate.co...1/10/DD210441.DTL] cordially, "Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
Post #73,882 by Yendor 1/10/03 10:22:51 AM Reply	Teddy Roosevelt on patriotism Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else. Source: [link\|http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/q136406.html\|Brainy Quotes]. IMHO, that message is not applied nearly often enough, especially in times of American Imperialism such as these. -YendorMike [link\|http://www.hope-ride.org/\|http://www.hope-ride.org/]
Post #73,889 by dmarker 1/10/03 10:49:28 AM Reply	Thanks for letting me know that the fires still burn in the US - it is a wory to us outside as to how much info we hear that may not be getting thru there any more or is being deliberatly distorted or miscast. Cheers Doug
Post #73,896 by rcareaga 1/10/03 11:28:18 AM Reply	keeping the home fires burning It is for precisely that reason, of course, that various of my fellow citizens hold that Carroll's readership (i.e., the San Francisco Bay Area) are not "real Americans," and that our seditious opinions should accordingly not be factored into the mix. Oh, that wacky, insular heartland of ours! Funny little rectangular states... cordially, "Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
Post #74,107 by Ashton 1/12/03 6:34:49 AM Reply	As stirring a read as this is, via a web link - Somehow it looked much better in real print! when I got around to the Friday Chron. It is saved with a few of Jon Carroll's other gems. (And I hope that Carroll remains safe from any accident-inducing contact with the Homeland troops) It may be too much to hope that, like Edward R. Murrow's Harvest of Shame (re ag. workers of the '50s) or his program of perfect shame on McCarthy (which is credited with precipitating an official end to that era) -- This column alone might restore a bit of spine to the cowardly Demo silence, complicity in the manic dreams of this illegal cabal. That's hoping for a lot, given the general Fox-News level of most of the meeja; but sometimes the starkness of such a piece magically galvanizes others. If.. Dubya et al are finally prevented from this madness, I will deem this column to be one of those "Points of Light".. that cuteness from a cynical speech-writer for the equally tongue-tied Daddy of this mendacious clan. It still generally looks like a train wreck in slo-mo out there, amidst the daily Language murder. Ashton

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