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More to box's point....its not the debt that matters...a certain debt level is actually >good< to carry...its the economy's ability to sustain that level of debt.

In that light..our debt is "within acceptable limits". It may be high in sheer dollar terms...and even high in terms of overall leverage...but we maintain the ability to service that debt.

And our credit is still decent...thus we can continue to cycle debt.

If we hit triple c in the world credit market...we're in trouble.
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New Nah, that's what the nukes are for.
New Novel approach to calculating a D/E ratio, I suppose.
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New But note...
If we hit triple-C in the world credit market, then the whole world would be in trouble, not just us.

There are a lot of people with a large vested interest in keeping the current status quo working...

Cheers,
Ben
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New Yes. We have quite the pyramid scheme going, don't we?
New Think you may need to revisit some definitions.
and maybe your public and corporate finance texts.

Debt is by design.
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New Happily I majored in Mathematics.
Pure mathematics, that is. If it smelled liked an application (and I do mean smelled) I avoided it like the plague.

Hence, I did not have "corporate finance" books in my curriculum. I'm just a poor old dumb North Carolina boy who was taught that a "debt" was something that you eventually paid back. Or else you declared bankruptcy, which is akin to conceding that you failed. ;-)
New Well it is!
But when you have lots of collateral...you can take out alot...and you can stagger it so as to have alot out all the time. And when you're a business there are people who calculate the "correct" amount of debt for you to carry.

Methinks you know these things already ;-)
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     Okay... now... who said the ECONOMY... - (folkert) - (37)
         Shhh.... - (bepatient) - (2)
             EOY budget spending -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                 I doubt it, those number are to big for that. -NT - (folkert)
         It looks promising. - (Brandioch) - (1)
             why pay goes up - (tablizer)
         I did - (ben_tilly) - (4)
             you will not see inflation any time soon - (boxley) - (3)
                 The question that I have then... - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                     Much like Japan is now - (boxley) - (1)
                         One catch - (ben_tilly)
         Yeah that &#% Clinton and his - (Ashton) - (23)
             Must you bring up the "Bad Old Days"? - (mmoffitt)
             what surpluses? Never happened -NT - (boxley) - (21)
                 1998 and 1999, for example. - (mmoffitt) - (19)
                     Just because you can - (imric)
                     nope, ya forgot the payroll tax -NT - (boxley)
                     Not if you counted social security - (ben_tilly) - (15)
                         I'll disagree. - (Brandioch) - (3)
                             Not from a Keynesian perspective - (ChrisR) - (1)
                                 Good point. -NT - (Brandioch)
                             No - (ben_tilly)
                         Do deficits really matter when there is no chance that ... - (mmoffitt) - (10)
                             in sheer dollars its huge, as a % of GNP - (boxley)
                             Yes - (ben_tilly) - (8)
                                 Leverage - (bepatient) - (7)
                                     Nah, that's what the nukes are for. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                         Novel approach to calculating a D/E ratio, I suppose. -NT - (bepatient)
                                     But note... - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                                         Yes. We have quite the pyramid scheme going, don't we? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                             Think you may need to revisit some definitions. - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                 Happily I majored in Mathematics. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                     Well it is! - (bepatient)
                     Moff, you have your eyes in a blender -NT - (wharris2)
                 But I got a check for $375! - (tuberculosis)
         Who? - (Silverlock) - (2)
             By the way... - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                 Re: "very strange" - (Silverlock)

I like when things catch fire and explode, which means I do not have your best interests in mind.
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