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Post #66,823
by ben_tilly
12/5/02 12:44:50 AM
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New The question that I have then...
Mow much of spending is being caused by eased credit?

If so, what happens when we stop being able to ease credit, and people start facing paying some of it back? (Particularly some of the debt which didn't shrink from inflation as fast as people were hoping.)

There might be a way out by going forward - we certainly have gone much farther than I believed possible - but there are still significant risks ahead.

Cheers,
Ben
"Career politicians are inherently untrustworthy; if it spends its life buzzing around the outhouse, it\ufffds probably a fly."
- [link|http://www.nationalinterest.org/issues/58/Mead.html|Walter Mead]
Post #66,837
by boxley
12/5/02 8:28:32 AM
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New Much like Japan is now
debt fakery and bad loans are a huge part of the economic foundation about 6* the savings and loan debacle if not larger. With the current occupants of the Whitehouse I see taxpayer bailout, increased money supply and 70's inflation in 10 years or so.
thanx,
bill
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Post #66,977
by ben_tilly
12/5/02 6:16:14 PM
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New One catch
The main driver that they can use to manipulate the money supply stops working when the interest rate gets to 0%. It is at 1.5% now.

Cheers,
Ben
"Career politicians are inherently untrustworthy; if it spends its life buzzing around the outhouse, it\ufffds probably a fly."
- [link|http://www.nationalinterest.org/issues/58/Mead.html|Walter Mead]
     Okay... now... who said the ECONOMY... - (folkert) - (37) - Dec. 4, 2002, 12:37:54 PM EST
         Shhh.... - (bepatient) - (2) - Dec. 4, 2002, 02:18:33 PM EST
             EOY budget spending -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Dec. 4, 2002, 02:41:28 PM EST
                 I doubt it, those number are to big for that. -NT - (folkert) - Dec. 4, 2002, 04:27:17 PM EST
         It looks promising. - (Brandioch) - (1) - Dec. 4, 2002, 04:43:01 PM EST
             why pay goes up - (tablizer) - Dec. 9, 2002, 11:59:53 PM EST
         I did - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Dec. 5, 2002, 12:17:51 AM EST
             you will not see inflation any time soon - (boxley) - (3) - Dec. 5, 2002, 12:37:04 AM EST
                 The question that I have then... - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Dec. 5, 2002, 12:44:50 AM EST
                     Much like Japan is now - (boxley) - (1) - Dec. 5, 2002, 08:28:32 AM EST
                         One catch - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 5, 2002, 06:16:14 PM EST
         Yeah that &#% Clinton and his - (Ashton) - (23) - Dec. 5, 2002, 04:12:21 AM EST
             Must you bring up the "Bad Old Days"? - (mmoffitt) - Dec. 5, 2002, 04:18:33 PM EST
             what surpluses? Never happened -NT - (boxley) - (21) - Dec. 5, 2002, 04:19:52 PM EST
                 1998 and 1999, for example. - (mmoffitt) - (19) - Dec. 5, 2002, 04:23:07 PM EST
                     Just because you can - (imric) - Dec. 5, 2002, 04:26:42 PM EST
                     nope, ya forgot the payroll tax -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 5, 2002, 05:12:32 PM EST
                     Not if you counted social security - (ben_tilly) - (15) - Dec. 5, 2002, 06:13:31 PM EST
                         I'll disagree. - (Brandioch) - (3) - Dec. 6, 2002, 01:47:56 PM EST
                             Not from a Keynesian perspective - (ChrisR) - (1) - Dec. 6, 2002, 02:45:59 PM EST
                                 Good point. -NT - (Brandioch) - Dec. 6, 2002, 02:49:03 PM EST
                             No - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 7, 2002, 09:13:56 AM EST
                         Do deficits really matter when there is no chance that ... - (mmoffitt) - (10) - Dec. 9, 2002, 10:52:12 AM EST
                             in sheer dollars its huge, as a % of GNP - (boxley) - Dec. 9, 2002, 11:05:49 AM EST
                             Yes - (ben_tilly) - (8) - Dec. 9, 2002, 11:16:15 AM EST
                                 Leverage - (bepatient) - (7) - Dec. 9, 2002, 11:39:48 AM EST
                                     Nah, that's what the nukes are for. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Dec. 9, 2002, 01:48:55 PM EST
                                         Novel approach to calculating a D/E ratio, I suppose. -NT - (bepatient) - Dec. 9, 2002, 02:30:22 PM EST
                                     But note... - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Dec. 9, 2002, 03:27:36 PM EST
                                         Yes. We have quite the pyramid scheme going, don't we? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Dec. 9, 2002, 06:48:29 PM EST
                                             Think you may need to revisit some definitions. - (bepatient) - (2) - Dec. 9, 2002, 09:34:26 PM EST
                                                 Happily I majored in Mathematics. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Dec. 9, 2002, 11:49:05 PM EST
                                                     Well it is! - (bepatient) - Dec. 10, 2002, 06:39:33 AM EST
                     Moff, you have your eyes in a blender -NT - (wharris2) - Dec. 6, 2002, 11:20:49 AM EST
                 But I got a check for $375! - (tuberculosis) - Dec. 6, 2002, 11:10:00 AM EST
         Who? - (Silverlock) - (2) - Dec. 6, 2002, 02:08:18 PM EST
             By the way... - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Dec. 6, 2002, 02:29:48 PM EST
                 Re: "very strange" - (Silverlock) - Dec. 6, 2002, 02:34:04 PM EST

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