Re: You missed the important bit

Post #57,688 by deSitter 10/18/02 8:26:46 PM Reply	Re: You missed the important bit This is interesting - you're arguing for the large standing army that Jefferson dreaded to protect you. If the US should start to go really bad, how would we stop it? -drl
Post #57,692 by imric 10/18/02 8:34:40 PM Reply	Resistance is Futile! Submit! Imric's Tips for Living Paranoia Is a Survival Trait Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised... Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
Post #57,703 by Yendor 10/18/02 8:59:11 PM Reply	Re: You missed the important bit If the US should start to go really bad, how would we stop it? This is why I have my right to keep and bear arms, thankyouverymuch. -YendorMike What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about? - Jimmy Buffett, June 20, 2002, Tinley Park
Post #57,708 by deSitter 10/18/02 9:06:46 PM 10/18/02 9:07:32 PM Reply	Re: You missed the important bit Your popguns are going to be a lot of use against Apache helicopters! Not to mention B52s. When it comes right down to it, the only real use of the right to bear arms is against your neighbors who might try to hurt you or your family (a legitimate axiomatic right) but in its original context, it's meaningless in some sense. -drl Edited by deSitter Oct. 18, 2002, 09:07:32 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #57,721 by imric 10/18/02 9:28:52 PM Reply	Resistance is Futile! Submit! Ya know what? I want the ability to resist. And- if 'we' get assistance from other countries... Well. Sounds like other successful civil revolts. Throughout history. They've ALWAYS been 'against the odds'. It's always foolish and dangerous to oppose those in power. It's also sometimes necessary. Imric's Tips for Living Paranoia Is a Survival Trait Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised... Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
Post #57,764 by Brandioch 10/19/02 12:18:03 AM Reply	They can kill us, but they can't conquer us. Yep, a rifle won't be much use against a bomber. But that bomber will have to take out EVERY person owning a rifle. And they aren't that accurate. There are more civilians than there are soldiers. It takes a while to train a pilot. It takes one bullet to kill a pilot. It takes a while to train a flight crew. It takes 3 bullets to kill a flight crew. And THAT is the scenario that is most likely to happen. The government will have to round up the REGISTERED owners of weapons BEFORE sending in the helicopters. Otherwise, the soldiers can be picked off by the locals.
Post #57,769 by deSitter 10/19/02 12:27:13 AM Reply	I Claim the Law of 8! -drl
Post #57,917 by inthane-chan 10/19/02 11:34:42 PM Reply	Ok book. Sucky movie. End of world rescheduled for day after tomorrow. Something should probably be done. Please advise.
Post #57,946 by deSitter 10/20/02 10:48:26 AM Reply	David Brin Liked The Movie - Neener -drl
Post #57,951 by inthane-chan 10/20/02 11:19:56 AM Reply	Brin thought it worked out as well as it could. My best analogy is this: watching Kevin Costner's three hour epic is a bit like having a great big Golden Retriever jump on your lap and lick your face, while waving a flag tied to its tail. It's big, floppy, uncoordinated, overeager, sometimes gorgeous -- occasionally a bit goofy -- and so big-hearted that something inside of you has to give... that is, if you like that sort of thing. In sum, despite many disappointments, I have to say that I'm not ashamed to be associated with The Postman movie. Yes, the book is much better! ;-) And yes, the film might have benefited a lot if the director ever had a few brews with the guy who told the original story. Yet there's something deeply likable about this film, despite its flaws. Above all, in these days of rampant and contagious solipsism, with so many people claiming to despise a civilization that has been so kind to them, this movie's overall message needs to be heard. From [link\|http://www.kithrup.com/brin/postmanmoviearticle.html\|here.] I get the feeling that he's happy it didn't turn out worse, rather than bouncing up and down for joy at how good it turned out. Brin's something of an optimist, and when his own work is concerned, has a hard time saying anything negative IMO. End of world rescheduled for day after tomorrow. Something should probably be done. Please advise.
Post #57,952 by deSitter 10/20/02 11:26:11 AM Reply	I liked it.. ..for Tom Petty if for no other reason. It was hugely entertaining, like Robin Hood. Costner makes entertaining movies. -drl

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