Re: Don't need extra marker metals in bullets...

Post #57,207 by neelk 10/16/02 5:15:17 PM Reply	Re: Don't need extra marker metals in bullets... No offense, but since the scheme won't work at all, why on Earth are you in favor of it? I mean, even if you had a perfect registration system, virtually all guns used in crimes are stolen (usually in burglaries of law-abiding owners), so the registration doesn't actually help track down the guns used in crimes. That makes no sense, unless your goal is to pass stupid laws that will inspire contempt for the whole concept of the rule of law.
Post #57,208 by deSitter 10/16/02 5:18:41 PM Reply	Er, Huh? You need to read the thread. I'm not primarily for gun registration, although I think it should be done. -drl
Post #57,231 by Ashton 10/16/02 6:36:56 PM Reply	Catch 22 built-in The entire rationale for armed citizens is: the mistrust of the same Government which would have to be the group controlling any 'reg data'. Period. With the present Yahoo John Wayne group running amok, even I cough have begun to see the possibility (no longer at the very end of the prob. curve) - of armed insurrection becoming a last resort: to restore the Constitution. In these post-PATRIOT desperate times. Which in it's near-infinite wisdom: provides this very remedy, when Government becomes bought/usurped by moneyed Interests or any other sort which nullifies Constitutional law. (Like THIS cabal.) Unlikely? Of course. Impossible eventuality - you tell me. Ashton Tom Paine Twain
Post #57,233 by Brandioch 10/16/02 6:50:17 PM Reply	Exactly. The LAST organization I'd trust with setting any rules as to who is allowed to own a weapon is....... The US government. With the state governments running a close 2nd.
Post #57,234 by neelk 10/16/02 6:52:10 PM Reply	Re: Er, Huh? You wrote, "Of course I'm still for test-firing the gun to record its rifle signature, although as you mention it's relatively easy to get around that one." Since this is trivial to evade, why do it? The government doesn't have an infinite pile of money, so why not spend it on things that actually would be useful, like establishing better best practices for controlling police evidence? An awful lot of the guns used in crimes were purchased from crooked cops who stole them from police evidence rooms. This is the main mechanism by which the same gun gets used in many crimes. Furthermore, bad and useless laws have a corrosive effect on public respect for the rule of law as a whole. This is a bad place to get into, because re-establishing credibility once its lost is really difficult. Most crimes get solved, for example, because people in the community are willing to talk to the police. Once you lose public respect for the law, you lose the willingness to talk, and then you lose the ability to solve crimes. You can't get credibility until you can solve crimes, and you can't solve crimes without public trust.
Post #57,347 by deSitter 10/17/02 11:29:20 AM Reply	Re: Er, Huh? I agree with all of this - but see no harm in putting as many obstacles in the path of bad guys as possible. -drl

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