New functionality (is this better?)

Post #55,885 by admin 10/9/02 10:58:55 PM 10/10/02 10:32:16 AM Reply	New functionality (is this better?) Links now do some interesting things... 1) targets are no longer allowed 2) an additional link is added for all anchor tags, with a target of "_blank" Like this: [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/forum/show?forumid=6\|A Link To This Forum] Comments? Concerns? Definitely not set in stone, but please see how it sits with you. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..." Edited by admin Oct. 9, 2002, 10:59:24 PM EDT New functionality: Links now do some interesting things... 1) targets are no longer allowed 2) an additional link is added for all anchor tags, with a target of "_blank" Like this: A Link To This Forum [open in new window] Comments? Concerns? Definitely not set in stone, but please see how it sits with you. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..." Edited by admin Oct. 10, 2002, 10:32:16 AM EDT Expand All History \| Collapse All History
Post #55,886 by admin 10/9/02 11:02:27 PM Reply	Note on new functionality: zIWT now saves an original copy of your post in addition to the scrubbed version, if your original is not the same as the scrubbed version. So edits will still have what you typed in originally. The upshot of this is that I can now do some really nifty things, like Ben's tag protocols and the like. The only downside is that the code that does the link scrubbing is an external python module, which means I need to restart Zope to make changes (doh!) unless I can figure out how to reload an external module within Zope. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #55,933 by ben_tilly 10/10/02 6:55:13 AM Reply	That sounds promising :-) "Career politicians are inherently untrustworthy; if it spends its life buzzing around the outhouse, it\ufffds probably a fly." - [link\|http://www.nationalinterest.org/issues/58/Mead.html\|Walter Mead]
Post #55,920 by altmann 10/10/02 2:10:05 AM Reply	Don't much care for it But [link\|#\|what] happens [link\|#\|when] we use lots of [link\|#\|hyperlinks]? Right click and click, or middle click, or a number of other shortcuts are easy enough IMO. -- Chris Altmann
Post #55,928 by Another Scott 10/10/02 6:41:51 AM Reply	Would shorter [text] help? Maybe " [NW]" or something? I agree that it might get distracting. A shorter text listing, or even an agreed-upon icon or symbol like [□] (a text box) might be appropriate. Or maybe some fly-over text that could be turned off in the user preferences. It's nice functionality for those of us who don't remember all of the keyboard tricks. Cheers, Scott.
Post #55,950 by drewk 10/10/02 8:36:42 AM Reply	Seconded, shorter text -- try just "New window" === Microsoft offers them the one thing most business people will pay any price for - the ability to say "we had no choice - everyone's doing it that way." -- [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=38978\|Andrew Grygus]
Post #56,002 by altmann 10/10/02 1:21:46 PM Reply	How about an IE smart tag? >:) NW in a smaller font might be OK, as well as an option to turn it off too. I just don't see the need for it when browsers all have an easy way (some, like Mozilla, with one click) to accomplish the same thing. -- Chris Altmann
Post #56,012 by altmann 10/10/02 1:49:01 PM Reply	I take it back. I'm already getting used to it (and using it). Shorter text would still be nice though. Insidious! ;) -- Chris Altmann
Post #56,014 by admin 10/10/02 1:56:56 PM Reply	Shorter text is already there... Just not for posts created before I made the change. Now it looks like [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/new?contentid=56012\|this]. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #56,056 by folkert 10/10/02 4:28:21 PM Reply	AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Much better.... MUCH! `greg - Grand-Master Artist in IT, curley95@attbi.com -- [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!!!] Your friendly Homeland Security Officer reminds: Hold Thumbprint to Screen for 5 seconds, we'll take the imprint, or Just continue to type on your keyboard, and we'll just sample your DNA.`
Post #55,939 by folkert 10/10/02 7:51:39 AM Reply	I do tabbed browsing... So it is a distraction... I like the idea though... just... execution is not right yet... Right now I push the middle button with moz and it comes up in a new tab anyway I do it... either link. Plus the signatures that have links in them, do the same thing... Jury is still out on this one so far, execution is the only issue here I believe... can you make it a "user" preference? if not we gotta finger out a different implement. I would believe the best way would be shorter text (or small stacked text)... but then still make a user preference... Great job so far... Keep it up... Build it and they will come... just don't plow under then cornfield just yet... `greg - Grand-Master Artist in IT, curley95@attbi.com -- [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!!!] Your friendly Homeland Security Officer reminds: Hold Thumbprint to Screen for 5 seconds, we'll take the imprint, or Just continue to type on your keyboard, and we'll just sample your DNA.`
Post #55,960 by imric 10/10/02 9:46:43 AM Reply	Thanks! Imric's Tips for Living Paranoia Is a Survival Trait Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised... Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
Post #55,961 by ChrisR 10/10/02 10:04:51 AM Reply	I'd Prefer... ... an all or nothing option. Something along the lines of a user preference that allows you to set whether you wanted targeted url's or non-targeted. This is more an individual preference. I fall on the side of disliking popup windows during the normal course of clicking on a link. As for the current solution - inserting text into the message stream that gives the targeted link - I'd have to say that it's distracting from my end. Not that the idea doesn't have merit, but I really think you are trying to solve an issue that is a problem on the client browser side.
Post #55,973 by tseliot 10/10/02 11:21:46 AM Reply	I prefer Chris's preference Many fears are born of stupidity and ignorance - Which you should be feeding with rumour and generalisation. BOfH, 2002 "Episode" 10
Post #56,686 by ChrisR 10/14/02 2:13:26 PM Reply	Changing my mind... ...after using it for a while I'm gettting used to those []. For the non-mouse challenged, might I suggest an even short - not sure the brackets really buy you much.\r\n
Post #56,691 by admin 10/14/02 2:30:25 PM Reply	You don't have to... ... there is a user preference for it now. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #55,962 by SpiceWare 10/10/02 10:07:57 AM Reply	How about doing the link the "normal" way, and add a separate link labeled NW(or whatever) immediately following it? Mockup using underline - LINKED ARTICLE [nw] Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore

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