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New One down, how many to go?
As someone who expects to be on the job market in under a year (when I move from New York City to ???) I am a little scared at how long you guys are taking to find a job...

BTW a note. For all of Karsten's protestations, he isn't desperate enough yet. I forwarded him some spam from a place in Palo Alto looking for NT admins, and he declined them...

Cheers,
Ben
New How long it takes...
... depends on how long you wait before you start looking, as well. :-)

I've been out of work for 3.5 months; I started looking 1.5 months ago, and I'm extremely picky. I only interviewed with two places and both of them extended offers.
Regards,

-scott anderson
New Ooooooh.
and I'm extremely picky

*That's* the politically correct term for that now? :)

Addison
New Heh.
No, that's the correct term... ;-)
Regards,

-scott anderson
New Well,
I suspect you won't be long on the market, either.

At least, you should have a lot of offers, from lots of places that have lots of Perl code around.

And if you don't try and strangle too many of the coders who left it that way.... :)

I've started getting calls again... so apparently the UNIX admins have dried up around RTP - and they're going DEEP into Monster's resume's and getting mine.

(Which won't directly help you, unless you want to give up that Perl junk and come over to the Dark Side).

But in a year, I expect a lot of things will be picking back up. (Or really far down, of course). But this massive overcorrection to the market I don't think taught the right people the right lessons...

Addison
New Hiring freeze ice age
Its still pretty lean out there. I've been trying to get back to Denver for the last couple months (for personal reasons and I'm sick of dogtown here).

I can't find any gigs at my level. But I think there are cracks forming in the ice and I'm hearing rumors of things warming up a bit.
New Nah....
But I think there are cracks forming in the ice and I'm hearing rumors of things warming up a bit.


...That's just the arrival of spring to the Rockies.
-YendorMike

"The problems of the world cannot possibly be solved by the skeptics or the cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need people who dream of things that never were." - John F. Kennedy
New Liked that JFKism too..
May even have a poster somewhere with sl. different wording.

Nice idea til the sloganeers made it as tawdry as Coke VS Pepsi :[ We have no shame.





A.
New :)
Got it from the AIDSRide booklet that arrived before last month's Ride. It had little sayings like that sprinkled throughout. They also had signs made up sprinkled throughout the campsite and pit stops along the route with other similar sayings. One of my favorites is:

"We are the music makers and we are the dreamers of dreams." - Willie Wonka

I think I'll be randomizing my .sig with some of these AIDSRide-isms over the course of the year, as I approach next year's adventure.

And I know I still owe the group an update/recap of the event. I'm working on it. Suffice to say, it's damn hard to put down in words what I experienced. It'll come soon enough. :)
-YendorMike

"The problems of the world cannot possibly be solved by the skeptics or the cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need people who dream of things that never were." - John F. Kennedy
New Nice. PPS - RFK used that in his campaign too ~
"Some people look at things and ask, 'why?'
Others dream things that never were and ask, 'why not?'."
New Re: Hiring freeze ice age
You might try Wells Fargo Bank in Colorado Springs, if you're willing to do the commute from Denver area. I worked on a Tuxedo project from Dallas, but the manager was in the Springs.

Also try Fedex in the Springs, Galileo (who I think was just bought by Cendant?), and BEA also has some programming/engineering offices in the Denver/CS area.

Good Luck.

Glen Austin
New Theory: Most jobs are where the weather stinks
People tend to migrate toward places with the better weather. Since tech workers tend to be more mobile, they are more likely to pick the better weather spots. This thus results in openings in places where the sun does not shine until the snow melts directly into humidity without a middleman.

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New www.computerwork.com did quick search on foxpro
3 CA jobs, several pages of jobs elsewhere.
thanx,
bill
Our bureaucracy and our laws have turned the world into a clean, safe work camp. We are raising a nation of slaves.
Chuck Palahniuk
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         awwright! -NT - (boxley)
         Superb! Report what you think at the end of the week. -NT - (a6l6e6x)
         Congrats! -NT - (Another Scott)
         Right on! Congrats :-) -NT - (Steve Lowe)
         Excellent - wouldn't do to have starving (mean) admin :[ -NT - (Ashton)
         I hate you ;-) -NT - (bepatient)
         Hurrah! -NT - (Meerkat)
         Way to go! -NT - (slugbug)
         One down, how many to go? - (ben_tilly) - (12)
             How long it takes... - (admin) - (2)
                 Ooooooh. - (addison) - (1)
                     Heh. - (admin)
             Well, - (addison)
             Hiring freeze ice age - (tuberculosis) - (7)
                 Nah.... - (Yendor) - (3)
                     Liked that JFKism too.. - (Ashton) - (2)
                         :) - (Yendor) - (1)
                             Nice. PPS - RFK used that in his campaign too ~ - (Ashton)
                 Re: Hiring freeze ice age - (gdaustin) - (2)
                     Theory: Most jobs are where the weather stinks - (tablizer) - (1)
                         www.computerwork.com did quick search on foxpro - (boxley)
         So in other words..... - (addison) - (1)
             Yeah, I've had a bad string. - (admin)
         seesaw warning - (tablizer) - (6)
             Nope. - (admin) - (5)
                 counter-resession - (tablizer) - (4)
                     Nope - (Fearless Freep)
                     No, that wasn't your point. - (admin) - (2)
                         be interesting to see graph of transactions over yrs -NT - (tablizer) - (1)
                             Got some urls for you - (dpeterson)
         Congrats Scott! - (Fearless Freep)
         iwethey.employed++ - (inthane-chan) - (2)
             Re: iwethey.employed++ - (Fearless Freep) - (1)
                 Alan Greenspan wants to license your code -NT - (tablizer)
         Thanks, everyone. - (admin)
         Must read book for people in bond market - (broomberg) - (3)
             Agreed - it is a classic - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                 Working in bonds.... - (kmself) - (1)
                     I prefer.. rather slowly____ working them off.._____:P -NT - (Ashton)

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