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Post #44,265 by bepatient 7/2/02 2:37:06 PM Reply	Goldberg appears... ...to be giving anectodal evidence...what he >felt< on the inside. The website looked as if they hac conducted a study or 2. You would be very hard pressed to tell me that there isn't liberal bias in print...at least the Philadelphia Inquirer. They don't even pretend. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #44,273 by Silverlock 7/2/02 4:23:38 PM Reply	That's not what I'm saying Of course individual news orgs have their own bias. Left or right. Just as individual reporters have their own bias. The rightwing campaign to label "the media" as having a liberal bias is where my objection lies. After 10 years of enduring "the media's" fascination with Clinton's zipper I find it hard to see the liberal bias so often touted. I think even you will admit to the rightwing bias found on radio (in general, on syndicated talk shows). As for television, can you say "Monica"? My anecdotal evidence is that I >feel< the TV news and opinion shows are saturated with conservative viewpoints. I will give you one thing, though. The entertainment shows are skewed liberal by a large margin. "We are patriotic citizens too. Patriotism means 'love of country', caring about its people, its ecosystem, and others around us. Not giving blind loyalty and a blank check to George W. Bush. We are patriotic enough to care about the long term effects instead of just the short term gain. Therefore it is our patriotic duty to guard our country and our constitution against people and forces hiding behind the flag." -Jello Biafra
Post #44,349 by mmoffitt 7/3/02 11:31:08 AM Reply	America is bi-polar. I will give you one thing, though. The entertainment shows are skewed liberal by a large margin. This is the thing that fascinates me the most. Given a choice to watch something that is "the way we want things to be" Muricans always prefer the liberal to the conservative. We want the real west wing to be like the tv show, we want a President and White House staff like the fictional one (smart, concerned with the little guy, and liberal). The producers of all tv shows know that conservative views are unpopular (with cause, I might add). Yet, there is an alarming number of Muricans who vote for conservatives who are no where near wealthy enough to benefit from any of their policies. It makes no sense: they want liberal and vote conservative.
Post #44,403 by Ashton 7/3/02 4:49:56 PM Reply	To the extent that is true.. I don't think you can ignore the "self-flagellation" component of Puritanism ie "if I vote for what I Really Want... I might experience pleasure.. Sample re (IIRC) a Sinclair Lewis novel, in which is decribed an autocrat with his family at dinner. The kid doesn't want to eat _x_ and the father wants him to. Finally wife says, "oh let him eat what he wants..!" Father explodes, "IN MY ENTIRE LIFE I'VE NEVER DONE A SINGLE THING I WANTED TO DO.." Yes exaggerated, yet - have heard such a rationale (once stripped of self-serving euphemism) in those 'explaining'.. how it was that, serially they chose: abusive spouses. As below so above (to paraphrase). Funny species. Ashton
Post #44,405 by mmoffitt 7/3/02 4:59:39 PM Reply	Good Point and one I hadn't considered. I guess that's why so much of Christian doctrine makes no sense to me.

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