Oh, puh-LEEEEZE, Bill...

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Post #44,344

by jb4

7/3/02 10:59:41 AM

Oh, puh-LEEEEZE, Bill...

So you assert the Michael Eisner picks the stories run on ABC news.

Jack Welch's replacement picks the stories that run on NBC.

Steve Case determines the news run on anything owned by AOL/Time Warner.

If you're gonna debate the man, debate him. This pablum is just too transparently a rhetorical trick (which is, correctly, called a "straw man") to fool anyone, not even yourself.

Debate him, don't play directly into his hands.

(I expected better of you...unless, of course, you really don't have an argument...)

jb4
"I remember Harry S. Truman's sign on his desk. 'The buck stops here.' Strange how those words, while still true, mean something completely different today." -- Brandioch

Post #44,359

by bepatient

7/3/02 1:11:30 PM

Actually.

That company's policy determines what stories run and what stories are pursued and what stories are dropped.

I've worked at several corporations...each one had procedures for setting policy...each one required that policies be approved at CEO level before going into effect.

So, my follow-up to the above statement...which you claim to be a strawman...is how "policy" is set at 3 Fortune 200 companies and one Big 5 oil firm.

However, this point hardly seems worth all the effort.

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Media bias - (Silverlock) - (84) - June 28, 2002, 04:48:39 PM EDT

Wow - (bepatient) - (77) - June 29, 2002, 12:57:21 AM EDT

Wow - what an exercise in non-commentary on the - (Ashton) - (76) - June 29, 2002, 02:46:02 AM EDT

I just had a beer. - (Ashton) - June 29, 2002, 03:36:22 AM EDT

Silly. - (bepatient) - (74) - June 29, 2002, 12:06:00 PM EDT

Oh...btw... - (bepatient) - (63) - June 29, 2002, 12:08:57 PM EDT

Dumb me.. - (Ashton) - (62) - June 29, 2002, 05:12:07 PM EDT

Ok...I promise... - (bepatient) - (61) - June 29, 2002, 06:01:08 PM EDT

Bzzzzzttttt! Wrong answer. - (Brandioch) - (60) - June 29, 2002, 06:12:36 PM EDT

You've wasted 3 more... - (bepatient) - (59) - June 29, 2002, 07:52:54 PM EDT

Point of subtle orthogonal inference, please: - (Ashton) - (58) - June 29, 2002, 10:14:23 PM EDT

Instead of induhveejewels... - (bepatient) - (57) - June 29, 2002, 10:36:38 PM EDT

Target acquired. Commencing SLAM! - (Brandioch) - (3) - June 29, 2002, 10:53:50 PM EDT

Ah... - (bepatient) - (2) - June 30, 2002, 12:02:27 AM EDT

And you're still trying to weasel out of it. - (Brandioch) - (1) - June 30, 2002, 12:13:21 AM EDT

Read elsewhere...if you must. -NT - (bepatient) - June 30, 2002, 12:29:12 AM EDT

Oh... Riiigghhhht.. - (Ashton) - (52) - June 29, 2002, 11:11:53 PM EDT

Mr. Lehrer is Mr. PBS News not NPR News. - (a6l6e6x) - (5) - June 29, 2002, 11:31:57 PM EDT

My bad. As to Lehrer: Oh Yes He Can be held accountable - (Ashton) - (3) - June 29, 2002, 11:50:28 PM EDT

The "sponsor" - COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - June 30, 2002, 10:34:15 PM EDT

Expect? Guts, not pandering to a set-up, ovinely. -NT - (Ashton) - June 30, 2002, 11:09:03 PM EDT

Hmmm, think "umpire". - (Brandioch) - July 1, 2002, 02:25:27 AM EDT

Silence == support. Particularly with a reputation. - (Brandioch) - June 30, 2002, 12:25:32 AM EDT

So its not good enought to just ist their networks... - (bepatient) - (45) - June 30, 2002, 12:28:04 AM EDT

You thought it would be? - (Brandioch) - (43) - June 30, 2002, 11:55:45 AM EDT

Ah, - (bepatient) - (42) - June 30, 2002, 04:28:52 PM EDT

Learn what "bias" is. - (Brandioch) - (41) - June 30, 2002, 08:53:48 PM EDT

So you assert... - (bepatient) - (40) - June 30, 2002, 09:17:09 PM EDT

Point of logical order? - (Ashton) - (4) - June 30, 2002, 11:37:27 PM EDT

Maybe you don't notice a bias based on the current issue... - (bepatient) - (3) - July 1, 2002, 02:11:26 AM EDT

Stats as of a month ago. - (Brandioch) - (2) - July 1, 2002, 02:34:03 AM EDT

So your point is??? - (bepatient) - (1) - July 1, 2002, 09:04:20 AM EDT

Read the questionaire. - (Brandioch) - July 1, 2002, 10:17:36 AM EDT

"Strawman", eh? - (Brandioch) - (32) - July 1, 2002, 02:15:09 AM EDT

Nope...nice try though. - (bepatient) - (31) - July 1, 2002, 09:11:21 AM EDT

And that's all the "proof" needed. - (Brandioch) - (5) - July 1, 2002, 10:16:51 AM EDT

Hopeless. - (bepatient) - (4) - July 1, 2002, 02:45:20 PM EDT

well you could always change your sig - (boxley) - (2) - July 1, 2002, 02:47:56 PM EDT

chuckle - (bepatient) - July 1, 2002, 03:51:35 PM EDT

The medical term for that is CRIS... - (bbronson) - July 1, 2002, 04:08:34 PM EDT

"liberal bias" "picking on Clinton". - (Brandioch) - July 1, 2002, 06:34:18 PM EDT

Bill, this may be a good starting point for you. - (mmoffitt) - (24) - July 1, 2002, 06:24:50 PM EDT

bzt - (bepatient) - (23) - July 1, 2002, 06:41:09 PM EDT

I suggest you read their site. - (Brandioch) - (13) - July 1, 2002, 08:07:47 PM EDT

Pointing to an alternate site - (bepatient) - (12) - July 1, 2002, 10:34:06 PM EDT

A different site? - (Brandioch) - (11) - July 1, 2002, 11:27:44 PM EDT

The >book<...my ever so sensitive friend... - (bepatient) - (10) - July 2, 2002, 08:32:20 AM EDT

A book on genetics, endorsed by the KKK web site. - (Brandioch) - (9) - July 2, 2002, 10:47:43 AM EDT

Brain death? - (bepatient) - (8) - July 2, 2002, 11:32:00 AM EDT

I will reconstruct the crime. - (Brandioch) - (7) - July 2, 2002, 02:06:38 PM EDT

You do whatever you like dear. - (bepatient) - (6) - July 2, 2002, 03:26:31 PM EDT

"Bias" is completely unrelated? - (Brandioch) - (4) - July 2, 2002, 05:02:15 PM EDT

Like I said... - (bepatient) - (3) - July 2, 2002, 06:28:27 PM EDT

Again, their position on global warming shows their bias. - (Brandioch) - (2) - July 2, 2002, 06:38:13 PM EDT

Whatever. -NT - (bepatient) - (1) - July 2, 2002, 06:39:40 PM EDT

So, your point is that a book store will sell it? - (Brandioch) - July 3, 2002, 10:47:40 AM EDT

Refs. be damned than.. So: - (Ashton) - July 2, 2002, 05:39:55 PM EDT

Was any research actually conducted? - (Silverlock) - (8) - July 2, 2002, 01:22:38 PM EDT

Goldberg appears... - (bepatient) - (4) - July 2, 2002, 02:37:06 PM EDT

That's not what I'm saying - (Silverlock) - (3) - July 2, 2002, 04:23:38 PM EDT

America is bi-polar. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - July 3, 2002, 11:31:08 AM EDT

To the extent that is true.. - (Ashton) - (1) - July 3, 2002, 04:49:56 PM EDT

Good Point and one I hadn't considered. - (mmoffitt) - July 3, 2002, 04:59:39 PM EDT

Interesting you should post that link... - (screamer) - (2) - July 2, 2002, 04:52:04 PM EDT

The only one that comes close to as many hits - (screamer) - (1) - July 2, 2002, 06:27:09 PM EDT

Close enough.. - (Ashton) - July 2, 2002, 09:03:52 PM EDT

Oh, puh-LEEEEZE, Bill... - (jb4) - (1) - July 3, 2002, 10:59:41 AM EDT

Actually. - (bepatient) - July 3, 2002, 01:11:30 PM EDT

In defense of Public Broadcasting - (screamer) - July 1, 2002, 01:02:24 PM EDT

Actually, it would need a rebuttal. - (Brandioch) - (9) - June 29, 2002, 05:10:51 PM EDT

Cool - (bepatient) - (8) - June 29, 2002, 05:30:39 PM EDT

Awwww, poor baby. - (Brandioch) - (7) - June 29, 2002, 05:54:39 PM EDT

Me? - (bepatient) - (6) - June 29, 2002, 06:06:15 PM EDT

Yes. You. Stop acting like a child and grow up. - (Brandioch) - (5) - June 29, 2002, 06:27:23 PM EDT

Excuse me? - (bepatient) - (4) - June 29, 2002, 07:48:24 PM EDT

I'm sure there is an excuse for you. - (Brandioch) - (3) - June 29, 2002, 08:11:01 PM EDT

And yet another... - (bepatient) - (2) - June 29, 2002, 08:18:44 PM EDT

Nah.. I think it's about the fun of ___Surprise! - (Ashton) - (1) - June 29, 2002, 10:43:09 PM EDT

But it is no surprise... - (bepatient) - June 30, 2002, 12:30:21 AM EDT

This can't be of much importance. - (Ashton) - June 29, 2002, 03:29:32 AM EDT

"Own the press and you own the People" - V.I. Lenin - (mmoffitt) - (4) - June 29, 2002, 06:13:50 PM EDT

thats why the repos dont want to support NPR :) - (boxley) - (3) - June 29, 2002, 10:27:56 PM EDT

Re: Yup: only rich country to SELL most all the airwaves - (Ashton) - (2) - June 29, 2002, 11:26:10 PM EDT

Sell? You mean Give dont you? -NT - (boxley) - (1) - July 1, 2002, 12:22:59 PM EDT

Yes.___WTF was I *thinking!* -NT - (Ashton) - July 1, 2002, 04:31:23 PM EDT

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