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Post #434,805 by drook 6/25/20 4:47:53 PM 6/25/20 4:47:53 PM Reply	Infer can be used active No, they aren't 1-for-1 replacements for the same idea. In use: He implied that all cops are racist. I inferred that he doesn't like cops. So you can make an inference based on an implication. But they really are so close phonetically, and so related logically, that mis-using one for the other in an off-the-cuff discussion is hardly proof of any glaring deficiency. -- Drew
Post #434,809 by Ashton 6/25/20 5:03:15 PM 6/25/20 5:12:48 PM Reply	Sorry, but.. [edited] Both sentences are themselves, "reports", in 'passive voice' re. 'events' ... that happened-already. Unless I'm missing something sub-tul-er. Still and all: there IS an Uncertainty Principle operative within Language Itself (as seems to mock/ blend-in? pursang-Physics/Math-theyselves (!?) Prolly Bertie could map this out in twenty? forty? pages, but I can't do-Mr. Kant-levels ..unless paid-in-advance. :^> But I'll buy your last ..unless someone opens a Switchblade, threatening Death or dith-shevelment PS: The 'Predicate ..'subjunctive-Case' in Engrish: opens up a lot of--sometimes-vital--'implications' when we try to write rilly-Exact statements {sigh} LANGUAGE is all we Have; sometimes it does create! or save-from! hideous Violence from all those Reptile-brainz-aflutter: Out There. Ergo: its POWER is giga-Tonnes beyond mere planet-destroying Bomb-things (as all derive from the Reptile-brainz-part). Edited by Ashton June 25, 2020, 05:12:48 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #434,815 by drook 6/25/20 8:32:00 PM 6/25/20 8:32:00 PM Reply	One of us doesn't know what "passive voice" means And I'm afraid it's you. :-P Active: He implied all cops are racist. Passive: The idea that all cops are racist was implied. Passive voice means that an action happened / happens to someone, rather than someone did the thing. That it's past-tense isn't relevant. Passive voice is frequently used to exonerate the guilty. Practical example: John Smith was involved in an officer-involved shooting. vs. A police officer shot and killed John Smith. (Example shamelessly stolen, and unconscionably condensed, from here. Go read it.) -- Drew
Post #434,818 by Ashton 6/25/20 11:01:26 PM 6/25/20 11:09:10 PM Reply	Mc Sweeneys.. unimaginable a few decades past.. Seemingly thay have applied the ~early-'90s techniques I first saw in a Brit-program headed by a (once) Wunderkind Host ... teaching at edge of that techno; "Knowledge": was part of the show-title. 'Twas there that I saw physics, math symbols automated (..thinking) ..Wow--had we Had That, why.. ... In that wow-demo the numerical/unit-sizes/colors! of variable-symbols altered on both sides of the essential [=] separator, as you inserted, what-Ifs? Algebra, Calculus, some partial-Differentials ..other nested-dependent-variables ... Grew or shrunk ..like here. McS takes the optics to Language (possibly inspired by? those 40-yo first examples I saw). Anyway I punt on atempting a better definition-set than the hasty stab; obviously: the teaching of (arcane-even) Language rules, habits and corrections via careful Academese-as-spoken: is superseded. (Worst case: many might well forget how-to? extemporaneously): craft some instructive-tale so as to kindle [only a small flicker of initial Class-interest] into ---> a roaring, Let's hear Moar! 40 :oTpy Edited by Ashton June 25, 2020, 11:05:40 PM EDT Edited by Ashton June 25, 2020, 11:09:10 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #434,820 by drook 6/25/20 11:40:40 PM 6/25/20 11:40:40 PM Reply	I think you're saying ... you liked it? :-) My favorite line: ... the past exonerative tense, so named because culpability is impossible when actions no longer exist. Though taking just an excerpt impels me to mis-quote the movie Mozart: There are just as many words, Majesty, as are required. Neither more nor less. -- Drew
Post #434,823 by Ashton 6/26/20 12:48:04 AM 6/26/20 12:48:04 AM Reply	That line is indeed, Boffo :-0 And yess, these folk appear to be exemplars about applying the effective science Demo(s) sanely to the more-difficult on n-levels: daily Ranguage events. And clearly, even more progress could find many (who thought.. "eh? it's too cerebral!) to get woke-up and smellin' the (Rose-coloured) phrases much more-better. All as promps wondering just how many other sites might also be toiling? in the fields of Disinformation -vs- de-Fanging that scourge on the asshole of humanity. Concur that they are striving for some new Clarity? (without any snark like: recall' Captain Clarity?') wayback when dinosaurs roamed ..just-beyond the perimeter of IWE. Thanks for the Intro! it's now in my 'https' listicle, stored just off-screen-right: a one-line-piece of TextEdit protruding as, 'SAVE SAVE". [Beats bookkeeping, and last I heard, that's the only word with two-'k's] :-þ

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