Don't go straight from $ancient_version to $modern

Post #434,088 by pwhysall 5/21/20 11:06:00 AM 5/21/20 11:07:43 AM Reply	Don't go straight from $ancient_version to $modern_version, if possible I don't know about Ubuntu, offhand, but Debian at least maintains a few versions of stable. https://www.itmanagement101.co.uk/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-10-4-10-10-maverick-to-the-latest-version-of-ubuntu-linux/ I'm going to grab an ISO of 10.4 and have a go :D Edited by pwhysall May 21, 2020, 11:07:43 AM EDT Don't go straight from $ancient_version to $modern_version, if possible I don't know about Ubuntu, offhand, but Debian at least maintains a few versions of stable. https://www.itmanagement101.co.uk/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-10-4-10-10-maverick-to-the-latest-version-of-ubuntu-linux/ Collapse All History
Post #434,089 by pwhysall 5/21/20 11:23:48 AM 5/21/20 11:29:22 AM Reply	Working, please wait... Interestingly if you use OOTB 10.4, the internet is mostly broken, due to SSL issues in Firefox. Also, the bidirectional clipboard in Virtualbox is a lifesaver. Edited by pwhysall May 21, 2020, 11:29:22 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #434,090 by drook 5/21/20 11:28:41 AM 5/21/20 11:28:41 AM Reply	You must be bored, but ok and thanks I'm still thinking like it's the early 2000s and you just sed the sources list and update. I'm so glad they've "improved" the process. -- Drew
Post #434,092 by pwhysall 5/21/20 12:13:19 PM 5/21/20 12:13:19 PM Reply	Well, that's Linux for you :D Apparently, if you're a lunatic, you can upgrade from Windows 1 to Windows 10, having many adventures along the way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH1BKPSGcxQ
Post #434,094 by drook 5/21/20 3:09:00 PM 5/21/20 3:09:00 PM Reply	I noticed I would search, find a reference on Ubuntu Forums, but couldn't actually get to them. -- Drew
Post #434,099 by pwhysall 5/21/20 5:21:11 PM 5/21/20 5:21:11 PM Reply	So, it works. Fresh install of Ubuntu 10.04LTS upgraded to 20.04, and the only third party tool I had to use was a gparted boot ISO, because I stupidly made the initial vmdk image far too small. 32GB should be your minimum; at 10GB you're going to hit capacity issues. As per my advice to drook on Slack: Ensure you have quite a lot of time set aside. This will take at least a couple of hours; quite a lot more if your storage is rotating rust and/or your network is embarrassingly slow Ensure that you have at least 10GB spare disk space and/or do "apt-get clean" between versions; the upgrade is not stupid and checks first I had to comment out the third-party repository in sources.list If this machine is virtualised, consider removing the VirtualBox additions (other virtualisation solutions with similar auxiliary packages are available) - could have been coincidence, but I had a hard lockup at the GDM screen when upgrading 10.10 -> 11.04. The order of releases it chooses is a bit weird at first - Mine went 10.04LTS, 10.10, 11.04, 11.10, 12.04LTS, 14.04.LTS (and so on) - just roll with it Remember to pass the flags for saying "yes" to everything if you want this to be even slightly unattended-flavour Also note you can give do-release-upgrade, which is very conservative by default, a kick by adding the "-d" option. Original uname: `Linux mavtest 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:09:38 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux` current uname: `Linux mavtest 5.4.0-31-generic #35-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 7 20:20:34 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux`
Post #434,108 by drook 5/22/20 11:19:32 AM 5/22/20 11:19:32 AM Reply	About to punt do-release-upgrade stalls on building data structures. Updating the sources and update/upgrade stalls downloading a source. If I can track down where that source is and disable one repo I'll try again, otherwise I'm going to do a fresh install. -- Drew
Post #434,109 by pwhysall 5/22/20 11:24:13 AM 5/22/20 11:24:13 AM Reply	What's in the logs?
Post #434,113 by drook 5/22/20 5:31:26 PM 5/22/20 5:31:26 PM Reply	Wood. HAAAAAHAHAHA!!!! Actually I haven't had time to mess with it today. Might try tonight. -- Drew
Post #434,124 by drook 5/22/20 10:06:38 PM 5/22/20 10:06:38 PM Reply	Nothing useful I was about to start a clean install, but it indicates you need 2 Ghz dual-core and 4G RAM to run the default (Gnome) desktop. This box is far short of those specs, and I don't trust the installer not to brick it. Besides, I like the current desktop on this thing. Now I'm thinking I'll just keep it disconnected from the net, do the book updates I want, then wipe and get rid of it. My inner nerd is screaming at me to not let this hunk of metal beat me. My inner adult is telling my inner nerd to piss off. -- Drew
Post #434,125 by Another Scott 5/22/20 10:19:42 PM 5/22/20 10:19:42 PM Reply	OS/2!! ;-) Ok, maybe not. Maybe ChromeOS? https://www.howtogeek.com/217659/how-to-get-a-chrome-os-like-operating-system-on-any-pc/ ;-) Cheers, Scott.
Post #434,127 by Andrew Grygus 5/23/20 1:52:46 AM 5/23/20 1:52:46 AM Reply	OS/2 is Old! Dumped it (well - sort of) a couple of years ago. My two former OS/2 computers (my two main computers) now run ArcaOS - the 2017 update from OS/2. Only problem I have, the running version of Firefox is pretty long in the tooth, I couldn't get the Firefox beta to run (thought other people have). Firefox development has pretty much stopped, and the promised Falkon browser (in active development) isn't quite finished yet. Porting all the libraries from Linux has been the problem.
Post #434,128 by drook 5/23/20 2:28:01 AM 5/23/20 2:28:01 AM Reply	Progress! I think ... maybe I had tried all the Ubuntu graphical package tools, and the command line. On a whim I tried Synaptic. I watched it fail to pull the translation files - which is what kept stalling the command line update - but get everything else. I kicked off a dist-upgrade before heading to bed. -- Drew
Post #434,130 by pwhysall 5/23/20 5:12:11 AM 5/23/20 5:12:11 AM Reply	I have had some success with Aptitude for apparently-borked apt issues
Post #434,134 by scoenye 5/23/20 12:40:10 PM 5/23/20 12:40:10 PM Reply	2nd this The interface can be rather infuriating but you get a good view at what is broken/stuck. And it groups the packages so you can deal with one area at a time.

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