Greta Lays It Out

Post #430,904 by Ashton 9/23/19 6:28:42 PM 9/23/19 6:28:42 PM Reply	Greta Lays It Out You are Failing Us! See.. her body language as she makes it So-simple that a SImpleton must Get It. Even. One. More. Time.
Post #430,905 by boxley 9/23/19 8:26:35 PM 9/23/19 8:26:35 PM Reply	How dare you? You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words.” keep looking for an address so I can mail her a really tiny violin "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #430,906 by Ashton 9/23/19 10:04:43 PM 9/23/19 10:04:43 PM Reply	{Shun}-squared
Post #430,907 by mmoffitt 9/24/19 8:17:18 AM 9/24/19 8:17:18 AM Reply	-quintic bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #430,917 by boxley 9/24/19 6:22:05 PM 9/24/19 6:22:05 PM Reply	16 living on a yacht and other peoples money addressing the UN yeah something is stolen all right "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #430,918 by drook 9/24/19 9:02:50 PM 9/24/19 9:02:50 PM Reply	So you have no response to what she actually said. Good to know. -- Drew
Post #430,919 by boxley 9/24/19 9:08:36 PM 9/24/19 9:08:36 PM Reply	complete BS and you know it. every religion is entitled to their saints and icons but "How dare you? You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words.” what exactly was stolen? Did she get sexually assaulted, starved, beaten in her childhood like a lot of poor brown and black kids? You want a poster child for white privilege, she it it. you worship her, not me. "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #430,921 by pwhysall 9/25/19 1:48:16 AM 9/25/19 1:48:16 AM Reply	You know exactly what she means.
Post #430,936 by pwhysall 9/26/19 7:39:09 AM 9/26/19 7:39:09 AM Reply	Actually let's go around again. Say I agree with you. She's a poster child for educated white privilege. She's being exploited by her parents for financial gain. She's being coached. So what? She's one person. There's the thick end of ten billion of us on this rock, the majority of whom have shitty lives by comparison to everyone reading this, and whose very existence only fleetingly troubles our waking awareness. So even if she is exploited nine ways to sunday, so what? She's got a message, and the means to deliver it. If you disagree, engage the substance of her message, rather than going on about irrelevant bullshit and cherry-picked out-of-context quotes. Because she's either right or she's wrong, and the science right now says she's right.
Post #430,942 by boxley 9/26/19 10:38:19 AM 9/26/19 10:38:19 AM Reply	sure She's a poster child for educated white privilege. check She's being exploited by her parents for financial gain. She's being coached. unknown "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #430,946 by pwhysall 9/26/19 11:40:45 AM 9/26/19 11:40:45 AM Reply	And...?
Post #430,947 by boxley 9/26/19 12:35:30 PM 9/26/19 12:35:30 PM Reply	and what? "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #430,948 by Ashton 9/26/19 1:50:44 PM 9/26/19 1:50:44 PM Reply	If you Need an 'answer' to that? then you couldn't process it (for shame). ie {Shun}, sadly.
Post #431,134 by CRConrad 10/10/19 7:03:43 AM 10/10/19 7:03:43 AM Reply	Sorry, but that still means the BOx is right on what he actually said. He was addressing that specific quote, and that IS bullshit. "Cherry-picked"...? Hmyeahwell, maybe. Personally, I suspect it's the other way around -- specifically cherry-planted: Firstly, as emotional bait for the naive. Secondly, to cover up that any actual substance was thin (to non-existent). Thirdly, as bait for critics -- so obvious, most will bite on this in stead of the thin substance. Fourth, as heartstring-tugger for White Knights -- people will rush to her defense when the critics bite. Worked like a charm. -- Christian R. Conrad The Man Who (used to think he) Knows Fucking Everything Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
Post #431,137 by mmoffitt 10/10/19 9:43:03 AM 10/10/19 9:43:03 AM Reply	It doesn't take a "White Knight" to defend a child against attacks from supposed adults. Especially from assholes like these. HTH. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #431,158 by Ashton 10/11/19 6:18:40 PM 10/11/19 6:18:40 PM Reply	Pity.. your inner-nazi, masquerading as digital-logic ..has demonized a smarter-than-You young woman Again. If you really-Are a closeted 'climate-∆-denier'--??--then you misunderestimate the transparency of these fulminations. Maybe it's just approaching geezerhood? in which case I suppose some slack could be gifted. From all appearances/lately: your auto-Scold mien -vs- the uncommon-Sense of Greta et al ..makes her both smarter and more-concisely Accurate than your cavilling snorts, a veritable litmus I wot. Just w.t.f. IS your beef? with so effective a Wake-Up-Assholes patter aimed exactly at --> the n%-masses still living the fantasy of 'Chinese-scam': this plain-BS anti-thought/anti-science parable of the feckless everywhere. Apparently even in Finnish lands. aka Bite Me; I can handle dentures or fangs. And ya want verbiage? I can clean your clock too, for free. (If the little grey-cells are failing.. OK-then: Man-up, eh)? but skip the puerile and vicious pontificating; you'd look silly in Papal robes. tl;dr: Et tu, Brute? now amidst the yahoos..? {sigh}
Post #431,207 by CRConrad 10/13/19 5:01:57 PM 10/13/19 5:01:57 PM Reply	Way to jump to conclusions there. The simple point remains: She had a typical Swedish childhood -- Well-nourished, free health care, free education. Nobody (at least nobody outside her family (and possibly the cruel genetic lottery that put her on "the spectrum")) has "stolen her youth". That's hyperbole, pure and simple; she's had a better childhood than, Idunno, at a guess at least 90% of all children in the world. Pretty fucking goddamn silly, and what's worse: counter-productive, in that it shows she can blithely tell stuff that isn't true. Oh, and "Nazi"? To me? As far as I'm concerned, you've lost this debate there and then. Go fuck yourself in shame. -- Christian R. Conrad The Man Who (used to think he) Knows Fucking Everything Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
Post #431,217 by Ashton 10/13/19 9:23:43 PM 10/14/19 12:07:57 AM Reply	W.t.f.Has? any of that gratuitous sarcasm-crap to-do-with: her current intellectual-abilities. "iT" HAS: stolen [the balance of her Still-Youth], ever since she reached sufficient sentience to Add 2+2 and get ~4. I can see no justification for your viciousness--whilst in most other posts (whether one agrees/or not) ... your POV usually seemed reasonable. At least. (Concur that you're most unlikely to be a Denialist): yet your tirade before any old Deniaist would get a Huzzah! PS: "inner-nazi" is a local tag--far afield from a 'N'-in nazi--it's that inner conscience-free thought-scape rarely voiced: gestated before sentience had mostly, set-in. HTH Edited by Ashton Oct. 14, 2019, 12:07:57 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #431,234 by CRConrad 10/14/19 11:42:09 AM 10/14/19 11:42:09 AM Reply	What fucking "sarcasm"??? Simple statement of fact: "Stolen youth" is silly hyperbole.
Post #431,246 by mmoffitt 10/14/19 1:39:30 PM 10/14/19 1:39:30 PM Reply	I don't know. Worrying about it has clearly stolen at least some of the innocence of her youth. That this worry is not wholly unwarranted can, I think, be safely left at the feet of the generations preceding hers. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #431,249 by CRConrad 10/14/19 5:37:45 PM 10/14/19 5:37:45 PM Reply	Then "they" have "stolen" your middle age and mine, and Ashton's dotage, just as much. Along with the age-appropriate periods of the lives of the ~9 billion others (or however many we are) on this mudball. And who are these evil "they", if not those ~9 billion themselves (ourselves)? Any talk about "them" having "stolen" anything becomes meaningless. And yes, sure (as I think I've pointed out already), worrying climate shit is indeed worrying. But worrying _to excess_ about it, to the extent that one feels one's "youth has been stolen!", is useless, misguided, wrong. Also voluntary, self-inflicted, hyperbole (cf "meaningless", above). -- Christian R. Conrad The Man Who (used to think he) Knows Fucking Everything Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
Post #431,271 by Ashton 10/15/19 4:00:30 AM 10/15/19 4:09:47 AM Reply	Then.. your 'understanding' of human-psyches sucks. You want some Boolean algorithms? for the interactions of the intellectual/emotional/instinctive aka 'reptile' - aspects of our jelloware ... a diagram in which the math [n!] implies gadzillions of relations: and you are fucking-Sure you have the chops to say: She's getting it all Rong/You! could explain to her just-Where she has gone Rong--and why you could Fix-It-For-Her. (Song, My Fair Lady, Why can't a Woman ..be more like a Man?) ..all that homo-sap iggerance combined with Your hubris writ Hyarge.. You couldn't possibly empathize with this girl ... merely pontificate. Her 'they' has been focussed on a most-apt target: Politicians of all stripes who have no Clue about the prognoses re Climate/and don't intend to get any. That's a pretty-Good FOCUS, I wot. Get a grip. Edited by Ashton Oct. 15, 2019, 04:09:47 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #431,273 by CRConrad 10/15/19 5:47:19 AM 10/15/19 5:47:19 AM Reply	Or yours. As much as your turgid prose.
Post #431,274 by drook 10/15/19 7:57:40 AM 10/15/19 7:57:40 AM Reply	How about this If 16-year-olds are known for anything it's taking things too seriously. Breaking up is the end of the world, etc. And all you take from what she says is that she's overreacting, so clearly being coached and used by ... someone? It doesn't just ignore her argument, you seem to say it undermines her argument. -- Drew
Post #431,284 by Ashton 10/15/19 6:08:24 PM 10/15/19 6:08:24 PM Reply	Proof right here: that your masquerade-over-yearz.. of being taken for some sort of clear-thinker? just Now is demonstrated as bogus; as a FAIL. Your wordy-diss of GT is *"Telling". Whatever be Greta's (apparently barely-'diagnosed')/Labeled: but not comprehended mental status* I wot that she is Correct in treating-that nebulous diagnosis as her "Superpowers". Because: q.e.d. Had the world a much greater-%-pop of these Unusually Clear Thinkers--of whatever fucking-'age-of-meatware', we would not ALL be in the predicament now we are IN. Were I elected Dictator I would decree that, wherever such valuable ones were discovered: The family should receive [some $$-equiv. amount, sliding scale -vs- net-Worth of parents] in order to give that Thought-capable-person his/her best chances to grow in already demonstrated Talent. This for the sake of saving the Planet from those digital-think lesser ones--and especially-from those whose emotional-brain has failed to function, those whose 'empathy' has been crippled: is thus an Unknown factor in their daily diminished Human-capabilities. Greta remaina a Mensch; her grammar-school-detractors remain Midgets Q-fucking-E-D. Suck it up Mr. Knowall (cf. W. Somerset Maugham's short story)--except that in that opus: Mr. Knowall proved to be incisive, caring and kind: these attributes saving a woman from considerable social embarrassment, ETC.) You OTOH: would have blurted-out just-how-clever-I Be!! / See, everyone ?! . Hubris Kills. Pity that, you got so old still suffering some facsimile of the dread-Drumpf-disease (which might be the calibrator for 0.00%-Empathic capability?) Save your juvenile/Drumpf-grade insults for your peers: these are always a **'Tell'--I think you know that vernacular. (Well 'intellectually', anyway). Grow up ..and we'll talk, else: {{shun}}.
Post #430,929 by rcareaga 9/25/19 12:10:00 PM 9/25/19 12:10:00 PM Reply	boxley in default troll-mode It’s not a good look on him. But everyone here knows that already.
Post #430,908 by mmoffitt 9/24/19 8:33:55 AM 9/24/19 8:33:55 AM Reply	But not ALL simpletons. The Orange One apparently didn't understand. What the actual F...? More here: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/24/she-seems-very-happy-trump-appears-to-mock-greta-thunbergs-emotional-speech bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #430,909 by pwhysall 9/24/19 9:56:56 AM 9/24/19 9:57:29 AM Reply	Here's my take on that. And it's related to how he deals with his own son of proximate age - to wit, he basically pretends he doesn't exist. Trump doesn't know what Thunberg said; she speaks in long, complex sentences using long, complex arguments, and tbh even if he was in the room and actually trying to pay attention, it's so far away from the words-of-one-syllable-bullet-points-and-pictures style he's capable of assimilating these days, she might as well be speaking in ancient Greek. But anyway, he heard that a yung peeple was speaking in front of the UN, and shat out a platitude about blah blah yung peeple blah blah positive blah blah teh fewtcha covfefe. Yeah, this also is related to the obvious cognitive decline of someone who, once his dad was dead, had the whole world revolving around him his entire adult life. Edited by pwhysall Sept. 24, 2019, 09:57:29 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #430,915 by Ashton 9/24/19 3:23:40 PM 9/24/19 3:23:40 PM Reply	Riposte to Menace noted: "I get pretty worried when you start talking about young girls" :-þ (Old saying) "If you offer me a criticism you have to follow-up with five compliments" OK: !) At least there's no report of cannibalism 2) His shoes are always shiny (out of ideas..)
Post #430,962 by Andrew Grygus 9/27/19 12:19:18 AM 9/27/19 12:19:18 AM Reply	Well, one thing is certain . . . . . the Eco Capitalists will be making millions off of her.
Post #430,963 by pwhysall 9/27/19 2:59:10 AM 9/27/19 2:59:10 AM Reply	Yeah! Big Solar! Big Wind! Big Recycling! Big Sustainable Transport! It's a conspiracy by Big Make The World Less Shitty, I tells ya!
Post #430,966 by Andrew Grygus 9/27/19 1:42:22 PM 9/27/19 1:42:22 PM Reply	You always wear rose colored glasses? Big "charities" with highly paid management that yield less than 10% to those in need are already common. Greta is certainly a property they will exploit to the hilt.
Post #430,968 by mmoffitt 9/27/19 2:02:43 PM 9/27/19 2:02:43 PM Reply	Geez. And I get the stick about purity tests! bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #430,971 by Ashton 9/27/19 3:04:56 PM 9/27/19 3:04:56 PM Reply	Methinks that we have not the Time ... ... ... to raze the Tissue-of-Lies behind all the shadow excuses for maintaining [Ronnie''s Greed-is-Goood], the #1 Kapitalismo koan, so: we must use this existing infra-inhumane rustic shack, while imagineering some -->\|\|\|\|\| Obstacles to their pernicious innate mindset(s) Later On (now a mere 'hope' that there shall Be such..? IF...) we Can methodically dismantle the poisonous artifacts of our Social Theories-gone-all-Rong. With care, determination and {ulp} Rationality-going--->Rite-ish, much of the species-list may survive--even Ours. That is all.
Post #431,097 by pwhysall 10/7/19 2:01:24 AM 10/7/19 2:01:24 AM Reply	I see you, Greta Thunberg. I see you.
Post #431,163 by Ashton 10/11/19 7:08:05 PM 10/11/19 7:08:05 PM Reply	Thanks much! ..a veritable wish-I'd-(could)-said-that-all. Pity there's no author named htf did you espy This? O staunch foe of the entire Brexit-scam via sheeple of the Drumpf-ilk. Moi lurves this Giant-little-gurrll, now the doyenne anti-Fascist anti-Kapitalist extant. (And.. as with Obama's ascension early-on: I ƒeare the lone-assassin, his hand on penis as he fires spasmodically in his crusade against 'speaking 'Truth to Power' and any other new or old koan. We must all hang together or manifestly we Shall all hang separately (to coin a phrase) :-þ Species-cide; imagine.. tryin to Imagine That, eh? we are sooo Fucked by the now-in-DNA fantasy of perpetual growth of $$, of offspring and the massively addictive comfort-drug. Greta wouldn't bite on that mirage, Evah--I do suppose. (Let someone offer her a £££-milliard to shut up. Preferably on Tee Vee, etc. I can see her body language right now).
Post #431,197 by pwhysall 10/13/19 6:52:17 AM 10/13/19 6:52:17 AM Reply	It's on the FB page of the writer Sam Gore writes I See You. https://www.facebook.com/pg/ISeeYouStories/posts/?ref=page_internal
Post #431,218 by Ashton 10/13/19 9:29:05 PM 10/13/19 9:29:05 PM Reply	Bully! ..add-to-listicle.
Post #430,976 by boxley 9/27/19 6:12:33 PM 9/27/19 6:12:33 PM Reply	Pickens tried big wind, couldnt shift the product out of the wilderness I think we should shut down the airlines altogether. There is no reason to pile people into a tube and use really carbon unfriendly jet fuel to move people around. No reason they cannot teleconference instead of face to face. When 911 happened and the skies were clear of planes for a few days the temp dropped nationwide about 3 degrees. No need for air travel at all. lots of other good ideas out there. We can start by shutting off electricity to Ohio in the winter time, use gas to heat their houses and use solar batteries for their cell phones. They need a light use the camera function. "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #431,023 by mmoffitt 9/30/19 8:30:03 AM 9/30/19 8:30:03 AM Reply	ROFL. Wind is obviously working somewhere in the USA. First or second fasted growing occupation in the US the last four years? Wind Turbine Service Technician. HTH. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #431,035 by Ashton 9/30/19 8:44:37 PM 10/12/19 1:16:18 AM Reply	Box- points conferred: Concur that massive air-travel blongs on the Docket ..early and fiercely. Edited by Ashton Oct. 12, 2019, 01:16:18 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #431,041 by mmoffitt 10/1/19 8:07:11 AM 10/1/19 8:07:11 AM Reply	Yep. Ride the Eurostar and then try to convince yourself air travel is necessary. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #430,975 by boxley 9/27/19 6:06:43 PM 9/27/19 6:06:43 PM Reply	probably, nothing really wrong with that as long as it is not a direct pipeline from my wallet to theirs via government edict "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman

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