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New Hmmm.. seems like a lot of discussion about the wrong problem.
Why did media give her poor coverage? Maybe The Creature From The Orange Lagoon is better click bait? TCFTOL lies out his ass on a regular basis; why the equivalence? Maybe because she will walk away from any stated position the next time she triangulates? Why did blacks stay home? Don't know, but maybe they have a little trouble connecting with a rich white self-entitled politician who won't look at them once she's in office? Why didn't the liberal/progressives come out in force for her? Maybe because she's a neo-liberal which is basically a spineless republican with training wheels on for civil liberties that don't cost too much?

What the article didn't ask was why didn't the DNC come up with a candidate that resonated with the middle class, the unionists, the working class and people the Democratic party used to support?
Why was Hillary for president a done deal immediately after Obama was elected? Why no consideration for anyone else? What is so attractive about a person becoming preposterously wealthy starting from "dead broke" while working in government service? Particularly while middle classers are digging into their retirement to pay bills now?
Some people do not consider her trustworthy. That is almost entirely her fault. Rules apply to others; not her, it's normal for her to get rich quick; she's special, transparency is something to promise not implement; what she does is nobody else's business. Yeah, there were a lot of yahoos yelling to jail her and quacking about bullshit conspiracies, but they weren't going to vote for her anyway. Even for a lollipop.
Anyway, it's over. We lost. The country is not likely to recover in my lifetime. It's largely her fault. One has to be a REALLY bad candidate to lose to TCFTOL.
"Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable."
~ AMBROSE BIERCE
(1842-1914)
New POS-elect also had *free* $2 Billion+ worth of airtime from the media during primaries.
POS == President of States per my discussion with Ashton some time ago. There's nothing United about the states anymore.

Yep, TV programs were disrupted just to air his diatribes on the off chance a new totally outrageous statement would be captured. The media was played!

I'm more optimistic about the future. If there is no putsch, and we don't get killed in a nuclear war in the next 4 years, Trump will be disgraced and gone. For a number of reasons, there's even a chance he won't make the 4 years.

But, I'll be watching. If there's a bad trend, I may develop an interest in firearms.

[edit] get numbers closer to truth
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
Expand Edited by a6l6e6x Dec. 18, 2016, 04:49:57 PM EST
New Yeah, he's click-bait all right.
Initially it was amusing: that carnival barker fronting for the republicans? It is to laugh. The laughs stopped when the only democratic response was "Hillary! She's got a vagina! And it's her turn!".
She didn't draw a lot of free air time because her discussion of the issues could bore the tits off a brass Budda and she has a history of triangulating which involves the abandonment of previous held positions, so nobody really believes her when she says she will do something.
I wish I could be as optimistic as you about the future. The bankers have already danced on our 401Ks and the remainder haven't increased in value to meet real inflation, much less be able to fund a future. Once SS and Medicare are gone, it's just a matter of time before the tax courts take the house and being killed in a nuclear exchange is looking like the easy way out.
Meh. It's probably just the holiday cheer: "Yes, Virginia, there IS a mad bomber"
"Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable."
~ AMBROSE BIERCE
(1842-1914)
New Can't disagree with most of what you say.
But, only 29% of registered voters chose Donald and some of them may wake up. It will be too late other than to pressure their Congresscritters in 2018.
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
New Well.. then.. some cheery words + deeds from ... Guess Whom?
A College (That 'Electoral one'! comprised of an eclectic assemblage of folk who appear--thus far--Not to be unduly deranged..

The letter to James Clapper (!) + added signatories begins
Open Letter to Director of National Intelligence James Clapper:

We are Electors who were selected by the voters of our states to represent them in the Electoral College on December 19, 2016. We intend to discharge our duties as Electors by ensuring that we select a candidate for president who, as our Founding Fathers envisioned, would be “endowed with the requisite qualifications.” As Electors, we also believe that deliberation is at the heart of democracy itself, not an empty or formalistic task. We do not understand our sole function to be to convene in mid-December, several weeks after Election Day, and summarily cast our votes. To the contrary, the Constitution envisions the Electoral College as a deliberative body that plays a critical role in our system of government — ensuring that the American people elect a president who is constitutionally qualified and fit to serve. Accordingly, to fulfill our role as Electors, we seek an informed and unrestrained opportunity to fulfill our constitutional role leading up to December 19th — that is, the ability to investigate, discuss, and deliberate with our colleagues about whom to vote for in the Electoral College.

We further emphasize Alexander Hamilton’s assertion in Federalist Paper #68 that a core purpose of the Electoral College was to prevent a “desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils.” The United States intelligence community has now concluded with “high confidence” that a foreign power, namely Russia, acted covertly to interfere in the presidential campaign with the intent of promoting Donald Trump’s candidacy. During the campaign Russia actively attempted to influence the election outcome through cyber attacks on our political institutions and a comprehensive propaganda campaign coordinated through Wikileaks and other outlets.

Allegations that Donald Trump was receiving assistance from a hostile foreign power to win the election began months before Election Day. When presented with information that the Russian government was interfering in the election through the course of the campaign, both in private briefings and public assessment, Donald Trump rejected it, refused to condemn it, and continued to accept their help. Donald Trump even made a direct plea to the Russian government to interfere further in the election in a press conference on July 27, saying, “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.”

According to reports in the Washington Post, New York Times, and other outlets, the United States intelligence community has now concluded definitively that the Russian interference was performed to help Donald Trump get elected, yet even today Mr. Trump is refusing to accept that finding. In response to the reports, the Trump transition office instead released a statement which called into question the validity of United States intelligence findings, and declared the election over despite the Electoral College not yet casting its votes. Trump’s willingness to disregard conclusions made by the intelligence community and his continuing defense of Russia and Russian President Vladimir Putin demand close scrutiny and deliberation from the Electoral College.

[More ...]

Emphasis Not added: only initial bolding is shown here; read the entirety at link.
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Do I hear jingling spurs, hoofbeats in the distance...?
Is it possibly the Pre- dis-US cavalry (not to be confused with Calvary..) ??
New I don't think there's enough of them who understand their role to matter in the end.
bcnu,
Mikem

Social Media is for Sociopaths.
New I'm afraid you're right about this.
And the moniker "faithless elector" doesn't help!
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
New Guess Whom? Clinton Electors?
always look out for number one and don't step in number two
New Afterthought: 'Director of National Intelligence' ... say it Again, slowly.
Does this mean.. that there exists a formal, funded, Planned reduction in consciousness, bringing-down intellectual and other reasoning capacities, etc.?

Is there, then: a dis-U.S.A. Czar of Dumbth ??

P.S. In-the-know, carping LRPD opines.
None of us is as dumb as all of us.


Face it: we're orange-topped-marmeladed Toast, next.
There will be 0-days when, a sane one might have a splendid romp (in the country, (say?) awfully though: even when Out of This Country) as:
the Damocles Sword named **Trump Lives! shall henceforth dance in the shadows, ready to spoil the slightest chance of an authentic endorphin.

**Citizen Robespierre Drumpf may be just one of countless 'nicks signifying the national shooting-into-same-foot, repeatedly.
Expand Edited by Ashton Dec. 19, 2016, 05:06:12 PM EST
New A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. (Kay in Men in Black)
bcnu,
Mikem

Social Media is for Sociopaths.
     For Box. - (Another Scott) - (14)
         Followed a link from that thread to a spectacular discovery - (drook) - (3)
             Damn, that's funny! -NT - (a6l6e6x)
             I love number 2 -NT - (boxley)
             Agreed. 1300 comments, also too. -NT - (Another Scott)
         Hmmm.. seems like a lot of discussion about the wrong problem. - (hnick) - (9)
             POS-elect also had *free* $2 Billion+ worth of airtime from the media during primaries. - (a6l6e6x) - (8)
                 Yeah, he's click-bait all right. - (hnick) - (1)
                     Can't disagree with most of what you say. - (a6l6e6x)
                 Well.. then.. some cheery words + deeds from ... Guess Whom? - (Ashton) - (5)
                     I don't think there's enough of them who understand their role to matter in the end. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                         I'm afraid you're right about this. - (a6l6e6x)
                     Guess Whom? Clinton Electors? -NT - (boxley)
                     Afterthought: 'Director of National Intelligence' ... say it Again, slowly. - (Ashton) - (1)
                         A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. (Kay in Men in Black) -NT - (mmoffitt)

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