OTOH, with the tremendous drag at the top of the ticket, ...

You think the cancelled joint appearances had nothing to do with what SHE said? And he even *DEFENDED* her for that!

Bernie Sanders defended Hillary Clinton after leaked audio from a closed-door fundraiser revealed the eventual Democratic presidential nominee’s unflattering description of the young voters who backed her rival during the primary, however, previously scheduled Clinton campaign events featuring her former rival were suddenly postponed this week.
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The Vermont senator defended Clinton Sunday during appearances on ABC and CNN, arguing that the two largely agree — even though Clinton dismissed some of Sanders’ policy positions as “false promises.”
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Asked whether Clinton’s remarks at the fundraiser amid their hotly contested Democratic primary bothered him, Sanders admitted, “Of course it does.”

http://www.salon.com/2016/10/03/bernie-sanders-defends-hillary-clinton-over-leaked-fundraiser-audio-but-postpones-joint-campaign-event/

If you really want the Democrats to fair better in the general going forward, you really need to start first by acknowledging that the Democrats lost the Presidential election because they ran the worst candidate they possibly could have.

Post #415,414 by mmoffitt 11/11/16 11:38:46 AM 11/11/16 11:38:46 AM Reply	OTOH, with the tremendous drag at the top of the ticket, ... They did pretty well after all. More of their candidates won than lost (55%). Just imagine how much better they'd have done without all those "Straight Ticket Republican" ballots cast against Hillary. https://ourrevolution.com/election-2016/ bcnu, Mikem I think religion should be treated with ridicule, hatred and contempt. And I claim that right. Christopher Hitchens.
Post #415,415 by Another Scott 11/11/16 11:45:09 AM 11/11/16 11:45:09 AM Reply	Yeah, they supported ~ 6 House Democrats who won. Feel the Power of the Bern. :-/
Post #415,419 by mmoffitt 11/11/16 12:17:34 PM 11/11/16 12:17:34 PM Reply	When you're rebuilding a political party, you've got to start somewhere, Sport. ;0) bcnu, Mikem I think religion should be treated with ridicule, hatred and contempt. And I claim that right. Christopher Hitchens.
Post #415,421 by Another Scott 11/11/16 12:27:51 PM 11/11/16 12:27:51 PM Reply	Re: When you're rebuilding a political party, you've got to start somewhere, Sport. ;0) Supporting 6 House Democrats isn't doing "everything" to defeat Trump and elect Hillary. HTH. Cheers, Scott.
Post #415,422 by mmoffitt 11/11/16 1:15:14 PM 11/11/16 1:15:14 PM Reply	Um, you do know he campaigned for Her in 12 states, right? bcnu, Mikem I think religion should be treated with ridicule, hatred and contempt. And I claim that right. Christopher Hitchens.
Post #415,425 by Another Scott 11/11/16 3:15:20 PM 11/11/16 3:15:20 PM Reply	So what. That's everything? Bernie was much more interested in pushing his oh-so-pure brand and starting his not-a-PAC PAC than helping Hillary. Did he take back his constant insinuations that she was Corrupt™? That she was in the pocket of the Millionaires and Billionaires™? No, he did not. Bernie was all about Bernie and remains that way today. He could have done much more to help her, but he didn't. Don't pretend that he did. Cheers, Scott.
Post #415,428 by mmoffitt 11/11/16 3:24:02 PM 11/11/16 3:24:02 PM Reply	What the heck could he have done that he didn't? She was a reprehensible candidate. That's on her and her supporters (see here, for example: http://forum.iwethey.org/forum/post/415424/ ). What exactly is it that you would have wished he'd done? Lie about her being a "change you can believe in" candidate instead of a status quo politician who had to be beaten into supporting weakened down Progressive policies in the Party Platform (not that many believed she'd do anything to pass that - particularly not after her choice of VP)? Seriously man, what could he have done? She was a horrible, horrible candidate from a party that has embraced horrible, horrible ideas for the past 30 years. What was he to do about that? bcnu, Mikem I think religion should be treated with ridicule, hatred and contempt. And I claim that right. Christopher Hitchens.
Post #415,429 by Another Scott 11/11/16 3:47:03 PM 11/11/16 3:47:04 PM Reply	He didn't do everything. He damaged her and the party. He should have done more.
Post #415,431 by mmoffitt 11/11/16 4:08:05 PM 11/11/16 4:08:51 PM Reply	That's "Everything Possible". So, again, WHAT did he not do that you expected from him? If campaigning for Her - including TELLING HIS SUPPORTERS TO VOTE FOR HER wasn't enough to satisfy you, what, if anything, would have been? bcnu, Mikem I think religion should be treated with ridicule, hatred and contempt. And I claim that right. Christopher Hitchens. Edited by mmoffitt Nov. 11, 2016, 04:08:51 PM EST Expand All History
Post #415,432 by Another Scott 11/11/16 5:15:20 PM 11/11/16 5:15:20 PM Reply	The sitting President campaigned for her more than Bernie did. I don't have the time to count the actual events, so I'll use Google as a proxy: "Obama campaigns for Clinton" - 166,000 hits "Sanders campaigns for Clinton" - 26,700 hits "Obama rally for Clinton" - 11,800 hits "Sanders rally for Clinton" - 3,210 hits You think Bernie had more constraints on his time than Obama? You think Bernie did "everything" he could to make sure Trump lost and Hillary won? HTH. Cheers, Scott.
Post #415,435 by boxley 11/11/16 7:16:51 PM 11/11/16 7:16:51 PM Reply	trump rallying for clinton 82,400,000, did you have a point in there? always look out for number one and don't step in number two
Post #415,442 by Another Scott 11/11/16 10:08:41 PM 11/11/16 10:08:41 PM Reply	You have to put it in quotes if you want it to work. ;-) 58,200. HTH. Cheers, Scott.
Post #415,434 by boxley 11/11/16 7:14:32 PM 11/11/16 7:14:32 PM Reply	well she is, he didnt want to be lying to the people always look out for number one and don't step in number two
Post #415,441 by Another Scott 11/11/16 10:06:42 PM 11/11/16 10:06:42 PM Reply	Then why did he say he'd campaign and wok to elect her? Can't have it both ways.
Post #415,499 by mmoffitt 11/15/16 6:01:51 PM 11/15/16 6:01:51 PM Reply	Well, maybe, MAYBE she shouldn't have insulted his supporters. You think the cancelled joint appearances had nothing to do with what SHE said? And he even DEFENDED her for that! Bernie Sanders defended Hillary Clinton after leaked audio from a closed-door fundraiser revealed the eventual Democratic presidential nominee’s unflattering description of the young voters who backed her rival during the primary, however, previously scheduled Clinton campaign events featuring her former rival were suddenly postponed this week. ... The Vermont senator defended Clinton Sunday during appearances on ABC and CNN, arguing that the two largely agree — even though Clinton dismissed some of Sanders’ policy positions as “false promises.” ... Asked whether Clinton’s remarks at the fundraiser amid their hotly contested Democratic primary bothered him, Sanders admitted, “Of course it does.” http://www.salon.com/2016/10/03/bernie-sanders-defends-hillary-clinton-over-leaked-fundraiser-audio-but-postpones-joint-campaign-event/ If you really want the Democrats to fair better in the general going forward, you really need to start first by acknowledging that the Democrats lost the Presidential election because they ran the worst candidate they possibly could have. bcnu, Mikem I think religion should be treated with ridicule, hatred and contempt. And I claim that right. Christopher Hitchens.
Post #415,500 by Another Scott 11/15/16 6:23:56 PM 11/15/16 6:23:57 PM Reply	I think Lincoln Chafee would have done worse. ;-p
Post #415,501 by boxley 11/15/16 8:11:13 PM 11/15/16 8:11:13 PM Reply	nope because I would have voted for him always look out for number one and don't step in number two

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