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New You know that's not going to happen.
The Democratic party are wimps - they probably have to have their balls removed to gain entry into the party structure. They have no idea whatever how to win an election - I've been watching them for years - watching them lose easy elections.
New They need a good dose of cynicism
The one thing I think Scott Adams absolutely nailed is Trump recognized a political campaign is a sales pitch, and selling has almost nothing to do with logic. There are two ways to win an election:

1) Frame your true positions in a way that appeals to emotion and hope for the best.

2) Say whatever it takes to win the election then do the right thing once in office.

For an unethical person it's an easier decision. Go straight to option 2 and define "the right thing" however you want.
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Drew
New Re: Say whatever it takes to win
And say it at a rate that overwhelms what any BS detector can handle.
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
New You don't have to overwhelm the BS detector
It's the BS refuter you have to overwhelm. We knew Trump was full of shit. But he can tell so many lies in 5 minutes it takes hours to refute it all.

Every speech of his is a Gish Gallop. See here for an explanation:
That Trump casually lies at the podium almost as often as he breathes is a well-documented claim leveled at him by traditional and new media alike. But actually unpacking all those lies in one cable news segment, in the confines of a debate, or in a single online post is a Herculean task. Take a look at this Huffington Post piece, which does a fabulous job of listing a few of the whoppers in Trump’s convention speech and summarizing the corrections—just as an example:
Trump said after Clinton’s four years as secretary of state, “Iran is on the path to nuclear weapons.” But Iran was already on a path to acquiring nuclear weapons. At issue is whether the nuclear deal will prevent Iran, as intended, from becoming a nuclear power.
What follows in the article is several meaty grafs on Iran’s actual history in pursuing nukes, spanning several White House administrations. This led to the Iranian nuclear agreement last year, and why it’s arguably in the world’s interests. But to hear Trump tell it, it all happened under Obama/Clinton through sheer negligence, and we even paid Iran billions of dollars in bribe money to sign the deal! The nod-nod wink-wink conspiratorial implication is that Clinton and Obama are in cahoots with Iran. HuffPo did a fine job reviewing all that in a concise manner, but it would be difficult to squeeze it all into a debate or a soundbite, even for someone who is well prepared. Throw in a dozen more similar convoluted whoppers, and the constraints of cable news or a debate format would make correcting even a fraction of them impossible.
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Drew
     daughter goes to cast her first ever vote - (boxley) - (52)
         :-( Glad she voted. It's important. -NT - (Another Scott) - (50)
             I have always taught my kids that voting is a right and a duty -NT - (boxley) - (49)
                 Absolutely! I've voted in *every* Federal election since 1962. -NT - (a6l6e6x)
                 Me 2. They both voted. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                     lie to em -NT - (boxley)
                 Good. Indeed it is. :-) - (Another Scott) - (45)
                     I wouldn't take any bets on that this morning. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (44)
                         Yeah... - (Another Scott) - (43)
                             We'll see if the Reichstag (er, Capitol) has a mysterious fire in February. :) -NT - (a6l6e6x)
                             A lot of times, I wish I wasn't right about something. This is one of those times. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                             no you dont have wishful thinking at all - (boxley) - (40)
                                 You know that's not going to happen. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                                     They need a good dose of cynicism - (drook) - (2)
                                         Re: Say whatever it takes to win - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                                             You don't have to overwhelm the BS detector - (drook)
                                 Ok - Let's say the DNC is gone. What replaces it? - (Another Scott) - (35)
                                     Eviscerate the DNC. Disqualify all the current careerists . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                         this one ^ -NT - (boxley)
                                     The DLC wasn't horrible? That's your White privilege speaking. - (mmoffitt) - (30)
                                         Bill won. - (Another Scott) - (29)
                                             Why did Jerry lose? Ron Brown had *a lot* to do with that. - (mmoffitt) - (28)
                                                 I see we still can't agree on the basic facts, let alone the interpretation. - (Another Scott) - (27)
                                                     ^^ that -NT - (pwhysall)
                                                     Why do you continue to refuse to recognize the obvious? - (mmoffitt) - (25)
                                                         Sore Loserman says he was Right. Film at 11. - (Another Scott) - (18)
                                                             That's disappointing. - (mmoffitt)
                                                             OTOH, with the tremendous drag at the top of the ticket, ... - (mmoffitt) - (16)
                                                                 Yeah, they supported ~ 6 House Democrats who won. Feel the Power of the Bern. :-/ -NT - (Another Scott) - (15)
                                                                     When you're rebuilding a political party, you've got to start somewhere, Sport. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (14)
                                                                         Re: When you're rebuilding a political party, you've got to start somewhere, Sport. ;0) - (Another Scott) - (13)
                                                                             Um, you do know he campaigned for Her in 12 states, right? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (12)
                                                                                 So what. That's *everything*? - (Another Scott) - (11)
                                                                                     What the heck could he have done that he didn't? - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                                                                                         He didn't do *everything*. He damaged her and the party. He should have done more. -NT - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                                                                             That's "Everything Possible". - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                                                                                 The sitting President campaigned for her more than Bernie did. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                                                                     trump rallying for clinton 82,400,000, did you have a point in there? -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                                                         You have to put it in quotes if you want it to work. ;-) - (Another Scott)
                                                                                     well she is, he didnt want to be lying to the people -NT - (boxley) - (4)
                                                                                         Then why did he say he'd campaign and wok to elect her? Can't have it both ways. -NT - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                                                                             Well, maybe, MAYBE she shouldn't have insulted his supporters. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                                                                 I think Lincoln Chafee would have done worse. ;-p -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                                                     nope because I would have voted for him -NT - (boxley)
                                                         She didn't call the working class deplorables. Why do you believe that? -NT - (drook) - (5)
                                                             You're going to defend what she said? *BOGGLE* - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                                                                 The KKK were supporting Trump. Should she not call them deplorable? - (drook) - (3)
                                                                     Re: The KKK were supporting Trump. Should she not call them deplorable? - (mmoffitt)
                                                                     Re: The KKK were split on their support. many supported clinton - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                         Yes, exactly that - (drook)
                                     Jonathan Tasini's thoughts. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                         Seems a pretty objective wish-list of basic fixes.. - (Ashton)
         People are assholes - (malraux)

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