you need to go to a better place
always look out for number one and don't step in number two |
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Interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_Place Better Place filed for bankruptcy in Israel in May 2013. The company's financial difficulties were caused by mismanagement, wasteful efforts to establish toeholds and run pilots in too many countries, the high investment required to develop the charging and swapping infrastructure, and a market penetration far lower than originally predicted by Shai Agassi. Less than 1,000 Fluence Z.E. cars were deployed in Israel and around 400 units in Denmark, after spending about US$850 million in private capital. [4][5][6] After two failed post-bankruptcy acquisition attempts,[7][8][9] the bankruptcy receivers sold off the remaining assets in November 2013 to Grngy for only $450,000.[10] It's a tough way to try to make a living. Cheers, Scott. |
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can be done doesnt mean it will be done
always look out for number one and don't step in number two |
another fallen idol
- (rcareaga)
- (72)
- May 31, 2016, 08:24:52 PM EDT
with Browns support, how many votes does that drive in Bernie's direction?
-NT
- (boxley)
- (1)
- May 31, 2016, 09:06:11 PM EDT
Re: with Browns support, how many votes does that drive in Bernie's direction?
- (rcareaga)
- May 31, 2016, 10:21:49 PM EDT
another one over the side
- (rcareaga)
- (68)
- May 31, 2016, 10:58:01 PM EDT
Hell, Hayden admitted he sold out as early as 1992.
- (mmoffitt)
- (8)
- June 1, 2016, 08:21:40 AM EDT
re: the last. Are you sure you want to go there? Mr. GA pilot? ;-p
-NT
- (Another Scott)
- (1)
- June 1, 2016, 08:33:19 AM EDT
It's not a secret to me that my politics don't play well with my pocketbook.
-NT
- (mmoffitt)
- June 1, 2016, 08:40:04 AM EDT
As you have pointed out
- (rcareaga)
- (5)
- June 1, 2016, 10:04:28 AM EDT
I really don't understand your animus toward a vote from me for Trump.
- (mmoffitt)
- (4)
- June 1, 2016, 10:21:49 AM EDT
Well, that would be in line with comrade Kim Jong-un.
- (a6l6e6x)
- June 1, 2016, 02:21:12 PM EDT
Ah, the "Let's you and him fight..." school of advocacy.
- (Another Scott)
- (2)
- June 1, 2016, 03:21:35 PM EDT
How's that going for Egypt?
-NT
- (mmoffitt)
- (1)
- June 1, 2016, 04:33:21 PM EDT
Countries ruled by the military for decades often have problems when the revolution comes.
- (Another Scott)
- June 1, 2016, 04:59:07 PM EDT
Umm hmmm. Yup.
- (hnick)
- (58)
- June 1, 2016, 10:33:35 AM EDT
Don't like rainbows and unicorns, bunkie?
- (rcareaga)
- (57)
- June 1, 2016, 07:47:49 PM EDT
Your projection is off
- (hnick)
- (56)
- June 2, 2016, 06:01:36 AM EDT
I don't think RC is applauding the rise of Trump.
- (Another Scott)
- (6)
- June 2, 2016, 08:59:01 AM EDT
have you ever read anything but her publicity items?
- (boxley)
- (5)
- June 2, 2016, 09:20:30 AM EDT
Yet she is incredibly popular.
- (Another Scott)
- (4)
- June 2, 2016, 10:50:26 AM EDT
maybe, but after 20 years in public eye, no one that was not her up and close loyal staff
- (boxley)
- (3)
- June 2, 2016, 12:36:57 PM EDT
Meh.
- (Another Scott)
- (2)
- June 2, 2016, 12:44:43 PM EDT
wonder how much she paid for that?
-NT
- (boxley)
- (1)
- June 2, 2016, 02:18:20 PM EDT
rofl. :-)
-NT
- (Another Scott)
- June 2, 2016, 02:27:58 PM EDT
I don't think anyone is celebrating.
- (malraux)
- June 2, 2016, 09:24:23 AM EDT
I'll attempt to clarify
- (rcareaga)
- (47)
- June 5, 2016, 11:40:25 PM EDT
Well said. Thanks.
-NT
- (Another Scott)
- June 2, 2016, 08:24:10 PM EDT
Re: I'll attempt to clarify
- (mmoffitt)
- (45)
- June 3, 2016, 07:10:55 PM EDT
I didn't say it wasn't a laudable goal
- (rcareaga)
- (44)
- June 3, 2016, 08:15:07 PM EDT
We can never accomplish what we REFUSE to try.
-NT
- (mmoffitt)
- (43)
- June 3, 2016, 10:45:01 PM EDT
I'm also not going to fly to the moon on gossamer wings
- (rcareaga)
- (42)
- June 4, 2016, 12:14:25 AM EDT
if clinton promised everyone a pony I would expect right after her swearing in to open my front
- (boxley)
- (1)
- June 4, 2016, 07:12:37 PM EDT
you don't care for Hillary Clinton, box?
- (rcareaga)
- June 5, 2016, 01:07:34 AM EDT
Wall Street tax for openers. You can read about that on his site.
- (mmoffitt)
- (39)
- June 5, 2016, 06:37:00 PM EDT
The people who have been hurt the most aren't on board with Bernie.
- (Another Scott)
- (17)
- June 5, 2016, 07:12:13 PM EDT
EXACTLY.
- (mmoffitt)
- (14)
- June 6, 2016, 08:59:32 AM EDT
People in divided government have to compromise. Imagine that.
- (Another Scott)
- (10)
- June 6, 2016, 09:59:16 AM EDT
What's divided? Two Right Wings don't count.
- (mmoffitt)
- (9)
- June 6, 2016, 11:35:35 AM EDT
Your continuing to say that doesn't make it so.
- (Another Scott)
- (8)
- June 6, 2016, 12:00:51 PM EDT
What are we arguing again?
- (mmoffitt)
- (7)
- June 6, 2016, 01:26:00 PM EDT
No, here's where we part
- (drook)
- (2)
- June 6, 2016, 01:42:08 PM EDT
Because the Democratic Party is also running a Republican.
- (mmoffitt)
- (1)
- June 6, 2016, 01:56:54 PM EDT
Well *that* certainly lets you off the hook, mein Herr.
-NT
- (rcareaga)
- June 6, 2016, 02:01:32 PM EDT
But Hillary isn't a Republican.
- (Another Scott)
- (3)
- June 6, 2016, 01:46:36 PM EDT
*I'm* getting hung up on labels?
- (mmoffitt)
- (2)
- June 6, 2016, 01:55:09 PM EDT
Only label I'm hung up on is "best on on the current ballot"
- (drook)
- June 6, 2016, 01:59:15 PM EDT
A President can do almost nothing by himself/herself.
- (Another Scott)
- June 6, 2016, 02:12:01 PM EDT
"it was a formative period of her life"
- (rcareaga)
- (2)
- June 6, 2016, 01:58:08 PM EDT
I don't think he even knew about her.
- (mmoffitt)
- (1)
- June 6, 2016, 02:15:18 PM EDT
So Treuhaft's stodgy reactionary partner hired her
- (rcareaga)
- June 6, 2016, 09:50:28 PM EDT
You've GOT to be kidding. Obamacare?
- (mmoffitt)
- (1)
- June 6, 2016, 09:09:30 AM EDT
Tell me about how great Social Security was for AAs when it started. (roll-eyes)
-NT
- (Another Scott)
- June 6, 2016, 09:53:23 AM EDT
unconvinced
- (rcareaga)
- (6)
- June 5, 2016, 08:04:55 PM EDT
Betting on the "breaks" needed to get to the moon was equally shaky, no?
-NT
- (mmoffitt)
- (5)
- June 6, 2016, 09:00:49 AM EDT
It wasn't a bet.
- (Another Scott)
- (3)
- June 6, 2016, 09:55:48 AM EDT
Medicare for the elderly first, then for everyone. How is that NOT incremental?
- (mmoffitt)
- (2)
- June 6, 2016, 11:39:08 AM EDT
It's not complicated.
- (Another Scott)
- (1)
- June 6, 2016, 11:45:42 AM EDT
Oh, you've read her transcripts, then?
-NT
- (mmoffitt)
- June 6, 2016, 11:47:04 AM EDT
Not as shaky as your repeated recourse to this analogy.
-NT
- (rcareaga)
- June 6, 2016, 01:16:37 PM EDT
I'd love to see a comparable goal
- (drook)
- (13)
- June 5, 2016, 08:07:58 PM EDT
can do that now but would need to be near a thunderstorm
-NT
- (boxley)
- June 5, 2016, 09:55:55 PM EDT
I think that's harder than going to the moon.
- (Another Scott)
- (11)
- June 5, 2016, 10:11:01 PM EDT
Replaceable batteries gets you the charge time
- (drook)
- (10)
- June 6, 2016, 07:34:24 AM EDT
In the real world, people aren't going to be swapping 1000# of batteries in 2 minutes. ;-)
- (Another Scott)
- (9)
- June 6, 2016, 08:50:56 AM EDT
you need to go to a better place
- (boxley)
- (2)
- June 6, 2016, 10:47:20 AM EDT
Interesting.
- (Another Scott)
- (1)
- June 6, 2016, 11:22:41 AM EDT
can be done doesnt mean it will be done
-NT
- (boxley)
- June 6, 2016, 11:24:32 AM EDT
So maybe getting battery weight down / energy density up is step 1
- (drook)
- (5)
- June 6, 2016, 12:29:54 PM EDT
It's not clear how much more can be done with current technology.
- (Another Scott)
- (4)
- June 6, 2016, 12:59:42 PM EDT
The top end for fuel cells shows 1,000 Wh/kg, that's 1.35 kg
- (drook)
- (2)
- June 6, 2016, 01:09:00 PM EDT
But like the paper says, fuel cells are slow.
- (Another Scott)
- (1)
- June 6, 2016, 01:28:06 PM EDT
Hybrid is is, then
- (drook)
- June 6, 2016, 01:40:42 PM EDT
Bitchin Soyuz pic, also brief energy-density graph..
- (Ashton)
- June 7, 2016, 05:28:20 PM EDT
Here it is in a cartoon.
- (a6l6e6x)
- June 1, 2016, 03:55:53 PM EDT