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New unconvinced
I assume you refer to the “plan” set forth here . I have no quarrels with the goals, but the legal and practical means to this end elude me.
The Sanders plan would make tuition free at public colleges and universities throughout the country.
Again, how is this to be enforced? President Sanders can’t simply issue an executive order abolishing tuition at public universities. He cannot by fiat withhold existing federal funding until they comply. Congress, I suppose, could pass a law to accomplish this end, but I doubt whether “Bernie” will have a complaisant legislative branch (the Republicans will be as obstructive as it lies in their power to be, and some of our own DINOs will bestir themselves to resist the initiative, and the law in any event would generate multiple suits, with no guarantee that the Supreme Court would take the administration’s side. Suppose, as discussed earlier, the free tuition will be underwritten by a benificent federal government?
The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. More than 1,000 economists have endorsed a tax on Wall Street speculation and today some 40 countries throughout the world have imposed a similar tax including Britain, Germany, France, Switzerland, and China. If the taxpayers of this country could bailout Wall Street in 2008, we can make public colleges and universities tuition free and debt free throughout the country.
Hey, I’m cool with a transaction tax. These guys are making zillions with nanosecond trades based on tiny fluctuations: they’re skimming, and the rest of us might as well skim their skim. For the moment I’ll take the site’s word for the $75 billion figure as representing potential revenue from this initiative, but again, I doubt whether the Masters of the Universe will direct their pets in Congress meekly to sign off on this, and I particularly doubt whether the public universities, most of whom are feeling pretty strapped for cash already, won’t just take the sums they are offered and raise existing tuition by close to that amount. Lookie! Free money!

I’d love to be wrong about this, but Sanders’ plan (if we may so dignify what reads to me more like wishful thinking) looks to me as though it relies on catching a lot of favorable breaks, some of these less plausible than others. That’s not the same as saying “I’ve got mine, Jack,” as you seem to believe.

cordially,
New Betting on the "breaks" needed to get to the moon was equally shaky, no?
New It wasn't a bet.
The path to the moon was via an incremental program.

How is "Medicare for All" an incremental program?

How is "Free College" an incremental program?

They aren't. Bernie has no plans to do things incrementally. He has "fix it my way or the highway" sound bites. It won't work.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Medicare for the elderly first, then for everyone. How is that NOT incremental?
Free state university and junior college tuition isn't incremental, it's a return to what we once had for $DEITY'S sake!

I love this. If Wall Street needs a trillion or so, the President can delegate the authority to give it to them over the week-end, no problem. But actually give people back the benefits they had when we could afford it less? Impossible.

That's your position in a nutshell.
Expand Edited by mmoffitt June 6, 2016, 11:39:08 AM EDT
New It's not complicated.
Many people have pointed out the problems with Bernie's proposals - several links are in this thread. It's not some conspiracy to enrich the banksters.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Oh, you've read her transcripts, then?
New Not as shaky as your repeated recourse to this analogy.
     another fallen idol - (rcareaga) - (72)
         with Browns support, how many votes does that drive in Bernie's direction? -NT - (boxley) - (1)
             Re: with Browns support, how many votes does that drive in Bernie's direction? - (rcareaga)
         another one over the side - (rcareaga) - (68)
             Hell, Hayden admitted he sold out as early as 1992. - (mmoffitt) - (8)
                 re: the last. Are you sure you want to go there? Mr. GA pilot? ;-p -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                     It's not a secret to me that my politics don't play well with my pocketbook. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                 As you have pointed out - (rcareaga) - (5)
                     I really don't understand your animus toward a vote from me for Trump. - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                         Well, that would be in line with comrade Kim Jong-un. - (a6l6e6x)
                         Ah, the "Let's you and him fight..." school of advocacy. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                             How's that going for Egypt? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                 Countries ruled by the military for decades often have problems when the revolution comes. - (Another Scott)
             Umm hmmm. Yup. - (hnick) - (58)
                 Don't like rainbows and unicorns, bunkie? - (rcareaga) - (57)
                     Your projection is off - (hnick) - (56)
                         I don't think RC is applauding the rise of Trump. - (Another Scott) - (6)
                             have you ever read anything but her publicity items? - (boxley) - (5)
                                 Yet she is incredibly popular. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                     maybe, but after 20 years in public eye, no one that was not her up and close loyal staff - (boxley) - (3)
                                         Meh. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                             wonder how much she paid for that? -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                 rofl. :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                         I don't think anyone is celebrating. - (malraux)
                         I'll attempt to clarify - (rcareaga) - (47)
                             Well said. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott)
                             Re: I'll attempt to clarify - (mmoffitt) - (45)
                                 I didn't say it wasn't a laudable goal - (rcareaga) - (44)
                                     We can never accomplish what we REFUSE to try. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (43)
                                         I'm also not going to fly to the moon on gossamer wings - (rcareaga) - (42)
                                             if clinton promised everyone a pony I would expect right after her swearing in to open my front - (boxley) - (1)
                                                 you don't care for Hillary Clinton, box? - (rcareaga)
                                             Wall Street tax for openers. You can read about that on his site. - (mmoffitt) - (39)
                                                 The people who have been hurt the most aren't on board with Bernie. - (Another Scott) - (17)
                                                     EXACTLY. - (mmoffitt) - (14)
                                                         People in divided government have to compromise. Imagine that. - (Another Scott) - (10)
                                                             What's divided? Two Right Wings don't count. - (mmoffitt) - (9)
                                                                 Your continuing to say that doesn't make it so. - (Another Scott) - (8)
                                                                     What are we arguing again? - (mmoffitt) - (7)
                                                                         No, here's where we part - (drook) - (2)
                                                                             Because the Democratic Party is also running a Republican. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                                                 Well *that* certainly lets you off the hook, mein Herr. -NT - (rcareaga)
                                                                         But Hillary isn't a Republican. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                                                             *I'm* getting hung up on labels? - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                                                 Only label I'm hung up on is "best on on the current ballot" - (drook)
                                                                                 A President can do almost nothing by himself/herself. - (Another Scott)
                                                         "it was a formative period of her life" - (rcareaga) - (2)
                                                             I don't think he even knew about her. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                                 So Treuhaft's stodgy reactionary partner hired her - (rcareaga)
                                                     You've GOT to be kidding. Obamacare? - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                         Tell me about how great Social Security was for AAs when it started. (roll-eyes) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                 unconvinced - (rcareaga) - (6)
                                                     Betting on the "breaks" needed to get to the moon was equally shaky, no? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                                                         It wasn't a bet. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                                             Medicare for the elderly first, then for everyone. How is that NOT incremental? - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                                 It's not complicated. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                     Oh, you've read her transcripts, then? -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                                         Not as shaky as your repeated recourse to this analogy. -NT - (rcareaga)
                                                 I'd love to see a comparable goal - (drook) - (13)
                                                     can do that now but would need to be near a thunderstorm -NT - (boxley)
                                                     I think that's harder than going to the moon. - (Another Scott) - (11)
                                                         Replaceable batteries gets you the charge time - (drook) - (10)
                                                             In the real world, people aren't going to be swapping 1000# of batteries in 2 minutes. ;-) - (Another Scott) - (9)
                                                                 you need to go to a better place - (boxley) - (2)
                                                                     Interesting. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                         can be done doesnt mean it will be done -NT - (boxley)
                                                                 So maybe getting battery weight down / energy density up is step 1 - (drook) - (5)
                                                                     It's not clear how much more can be done with current technology. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                                                         The top end for fuel cells shows 1,000 Wh/kg, that's 1.35 kg - (drook) - (2)
                                                                             But like the paper says, fuel cells are slow. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                                 Hybrid is is, then - (drook)
                                                                         Bitchin Soyuz pic, also brief energy-density graph.. - (Ashton)
         Here it is in a cartoon. - (a6l6e6x)

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