I used to have one.

Post #406,136 by malraux 11/8/15 7:58:18 PM Reply	I used to have one. More walking, better posture at work, standing and stretching for 3 minutes every 30, and a hard latex mattress have made my problems pretty much go away. Not saying it will help for you, but there was a point a few years ago where every other day it hurt to move. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #406,137 by boxley 11/8/15 8:42:20 PM Reply	especially the bed. I have slept on a thin futon on the floor for many years, it helps you can kill people for America at age 18 but need to be 21 to buy a beer
Post #406,140 by malraux 11/8/15 9:28:57 PM Reply	The most comfortable beds we've had: The futon we had in college, and the latex mattress we have now. The latex matters has 4 layers that can be switched around or replaced if necessary. 5 years old and it still shows no signs of canoeing. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #406,141 by Another Scott 11/8/15 9:53:17 PM Reply	Do you know the brand off-hand? We've got a Sealy almost-pillowtop something or other that is two sided. We were religious about turning it every month for the first few years, but it still developed depressions. J's sister has a magical mystery foam thingy that they seem to like but always swallows me when I lay down on it. I naturally move around at night, so it's like torture for me not to be able to move in it... Thanks. Cheers, Scott.
Post #406,143 by boxley 11/8/15 10:02:15 PM Reply	thats what I like about futons, pick it up and shake it back into shape you can kill people for America at age 18 but need to be 21 to buy a beer
Post #406,146 by Andrew Grygus 11/8/15 10:10:28 PM Reply	My waterbed does not get depressions . . . . . and is very easily adjusted for firmness and temperature. I do have to burp it every few months though, when it gets noisy. I do get mild lower back pain under two conditions. One is staying in bed for much more than 9 hours. This goes away in a few minutes after I get up. The other condition is pick and shovel work, especially digging holes. That takes a little longer to go away, but not a lot.
Post #406,150 by Another Scott 11/8/15 10:31:10 PM Reply	Yeahbut... Do they make anything approaching a "waveless" water bed anymore? J is a very light sleeper. I can imagine her killing me from getting seasick the way I move around... It looks like there are some that claim to be, e.g. this one, but it looks like we'd have to change our headboard and footboard, bedframe, etc., so that's probably a non-starter. Thanks. Cheers, Scott.
Post #406,157 by Andrew Grygus 11/9/15 1:42:52 AM Reply	My local supplier tried to sell me something like that . . . . . last time it was new mattress time (about every 15 years), but I don't need anything like that. So far nobody has had any problem sleeping, even though I do move around a fair amount - the waves seem restful. My big disappointment was during the big Whittier Narrows earthquake - it hardly made any waves at all. The only real problem has been with women who snore really, really loud in the wrong frequency range and in the wrong position - It can act as an amplifying echo chamber.I think some of the fancier versions might dampen that - but I haven't waited to find out. One woman, afraid of snoring, brought a CPAP machine. Let me tell you, her snoring was nothing compared to the leaf blower sound of that diabolical machine. Fortunately she fairly quickly realized that and turned it off, so I got some pretty good sleep after that. There are times when the cure is much worse than the disease. Personally, I think snoring is an extremely serious problem for many people, and I don't think our health care industry is giving it even 10% of the attention they should be giving it. For the record: I have been reported to snore, but only a couple times in my entire lifetime. That was when lying flat on my back, but unless I am really totally physically exhausted, I can't fall asleep (or stay asleep) flat on my back - it's my waking up position.
Post #406,163 by Another Scott 11/9/15 7:46:40 AM Reply	I snore a bit too. The "nose strips" (stiff band aids you put across your nose) do help some (though they usually peel off my nose a little by morning). I hope it never gets so bad for me that I need a CPAP, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do. Thanks. Good luck. Cheers, Scott.
Post #406,197 by crazy 11/10/15 8:19:08 AM Reply	I used one for years. Basically filled with pillow stuffing. Worked to dampen. My brother uses one that is a series of water filled tubes. No movement between them. I now use a foam temperapedic ripoff.
Post #406,256 by rcareaga 11/13/15 3:34:19 PM Reply	life-saving waterbed A chum relates the story from forty years ago of smoking in bed (unwise) and falling asleep with the still-lit cigarette (doubly unwise). The fire did not initially wake him up. The fire melting the plastic waterbed envelope, causing the contents to cascade over him, did. Hilarity ensued, not. He was, however, able by dint of vigorous splashing and thrashing to smother the flames with the now-charred bedclothes, and escaped with only minor burns. Cleaning up his basement apartment afterward was something of an ordeal. cordially,
Post #406,265 by Another Scott 11/14/15 12:47:06 AM Reply	Yowza!
Post #406,151 by malraux 11/8/15 10:56:14 PM Reply	Sleep EZ https://www.sleepez.com We bought the 13" with 4 layers, but if I were to do it again I'd stick with the 10". The 13" mattress is extremely thick. The king is two separate stacks of latex slabs, which means that you can J could have two different setups with respect to firmness. The break between the two sides also means that movement doesn't transfer much at all. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #406,162 by Another Scott 11/9/15 7:43:31 AM Reply	Thanks very much. Gotta do some studying...

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