Post #402,918
6/26/15 2:25:40 PM
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Umm...
My wife and I are also childless. You are claiming that our relationship is a net negative for the State. I would submit that this is the United States, not the Soviet Union. The people here ARE the State. Happy people in stable relationships are a positive for the state, not a negative. People here, who have too many children they can't afford or can't maintain are more of a load on society than my wife and I who work as much as we are able (considerable still)and maintain our property. As a side note, discounting what the Republicans think, our society is not a business; everything is not a financial profit/loss transaction, and we don't "manage out" the bottom 10% on a performance basis. "Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable."
~ AMBROSE BIERCE
(1842-1914)
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Post #402,924
6/26/15 3:04:05 PM
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Would you leave your wife if you didn't have a marriage license?
I, respectfully, submit to you that the strength of the relationship you and your wife enjoy is not dependent upon a state issued marriage license. Further, if the existence of "happy people in stable relationships" is entirely dependent upon a State issued license, then how happy can the people truly be? How stable can be their relationships when it is only a legally binding document that keeps them together?
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Post #402,929
6/26/15 3:14:15 PM
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easy-peasy
Let's assume hnick and his wife are not actually married. The (virtual) Mrs. hnick, whose parents have never liked her boyfriend, is mortally ill. Her parents bar hnick from the hospital room, and from the subsequent funeral service. Since the hnicks neglected to do proper estate planning, her entire assets go to the virtual in-laws.
Lord, the barrel is so tiny, and the fish so big.
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Post #402,934
6/26/15 3:26:23 PM
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Ah, then we're talking of the selfish interests of the couple.
That's what's really important here, right?
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Post #402,939
6/26/15 4:02:49 PM
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Re: Ah, then we're talking of the selfish interests of the couple.
Protecting the interests of the citizens (including couples) is the only legitimate business of the state. As long as there are varying rights in society that are dependent on a declared status e.g. marriage, all consenting adults are entitled to access that privilege. Now, in the instance of marriage, they have it. If this overly bothers you, well, pissfiddles... it's only the selfish interest of an individual they're messing with. "Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable."
~ AMBROSE BIERCE
(1842-1914)
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Post #402,953
6/26/15 4:57:01 PM
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The State also has an interest in seeing that it survives.
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Post #402,955
6/26/15 5:32:45 PM
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The State has interests . . .
. . The State this, The State that, The State something else, always The State - geez, what a commie :)
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Post #403,034
6/29/15 8:47:50 AM
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:0)
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Post #402,958
6/26/15 6:35:19 PM
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My last comment in this thread
"You are not just wrong. You are wrong at every conceivable level of resolution. Zooming in on any part of your worldview finds beliefs exactly as wrong as your entire worldview." Fractal wrongness"Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable."
~ AMBROSE BIERCE
(1842-1914)
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Post #402,960
6/26/15 7:39:00 PM
6/26/15 8:11:51 PM
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Man, I gotta keep that link ... Oh lord, time sink from hell!
Edited by drook
June 26, 2015, 07:46:40 PM EDT
Edited by drook
June 26, 2015, 08:11:51 PM EDT
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Post #402,964
6/27/15 12:51:41 AM
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Things like that were on Pharyngula when PZ was debating. He eventually quit debating.
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Post #403,202
7/2/15 5:43:00 PM
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Holy Cthulhu! ... why this thesis might be appended to Gödel's
Proof--thus bringing scale + relativity to human mouth noises!--at last.
{Alas, as with Dr.Strangelove's Doomsday device: it only works if everyone Knows about it} ;-/
..so as to return so many bat-shit crazies to their former status: being utterly ignored. For cause.
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