Post #398,363
1/21/15 5:20:04 PM
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The New England Who?
The NFL's Patriots have a well-earned nickname of the Cheatriots. They were sanctioned by the league for videotaping opponent practices in 2007. After this week's report that 11 of 12 balls the team provided for the AFC championship game were under-inflated by 2 PSI, Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report has dubbed them the Deflatriots.
I approve.
I believe the Seattle Seahawks will win the Super Bowl if they do two things.
1. Score many points
2. Do not allow the Deflatriots to score many points
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Post #398,366
1/21/15 7:50:37 PM
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Patriots!!11
Boston Globe: At least one official touches the football on every play, yet none seemed to notice until halftime. The Patriots led, 17-7, at intermission, and outscored the Colts, 28-0, after the officials seemingly corrected the ball issue. Heh. I'm not condoning any cheating, but if the rules are such that each team's offense is responsible for its balls, then the rules are stupid because they invite "cheating" and charges of "cheating". The league should supply standard balls, and the officials should be responsible for them. Does baseball allow each pitcher to supply his own balls? :-p It's yet another example of the stupidity of professional football. In my oh so humble opinion. ;-) Cheers, Scott.
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Post #398,408
1/22/15 6:39:20 PM
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Well, the home team supplies the balls to the ump
Same as the NFL, they are inspected before the game, but during the game, the balls are in the dugout. Plenty of opportunity to have some fun.
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Post #398,413
1/22/15 7:37:26 PM
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Really?
I never would have thought that. But, of course, you're right: (c) Receive from the home club a supply of regulation baseballs, the number and make to be certified to the home club by the league president. The umpire shall inspect the baseballs and ensure they are regulation baseballs and that they are properly rubbed so that the gloss is removed. The umpire shall be the sole judge of the fitness of the balls to be used in the game;
(d) Be assured by the home club that at least one dozen regulation reserve balls are immediately available for use if required; Interesting. But the system invites abuse. Something better is needed. (E.g. the commissioner ships balls in care of the umpire to the stadium before every game.) Cheers, Scott.
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Post #398,414
1/22/15 7:55:17 PM
1/22/15 7:58:29 PM
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The Rockies would love that
They had to build a humidor to store the balls because the dry air in Denver changes the flight characteristics. Home runs were a dime a dozen until the change. Not sure if there are any other regional exceptions.
An ump would pretty much need to brood on the balls until they're needed.
Edited by scoenye
Jan. 22, 2015, 07:58:29 PM EST
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Post #398,416
1/22/15 8:52:29 PM
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I thought it was the thin air
Did the dryness make the hide on the balls harder or something?
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Post #398,418
1/22/15 9:16:08 PM
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Harder, lighter, smaller and slippery
http://www.popsci.com/entertainment-amp-gaming/article/2008-11/why-do-colorado-rockies-keep-their-baseballs-humidorAccording to a 2004 study by physicist David Kagan of California State University at Chico, keeping the balls at 50 percent relative humidity lowers their coefficient of restitution, a.k.a. bounciness. This means that the balls don't bounce off the bat as powerfully as dried-out ones do. The slipperyness may be most to blame according to the pitchers. and a good bit of conspiracy to boot: http://m.mlb.com/news/article/15079018/ TV footage that went viral caught Giants ace Tim Lincecum profanely expressing suspicions about one of the balls he rejected in the sixth inning Friday night -- as he was throwing perfect ball for seven of his eight innings in a 2-1 victory over the Rockies. The Giants had already expressed concerns in a call to MLB prior to this series, although they said they didn't file an official complaint.
"They definitely called us on this," Pat Courtney, MLB senior vice president of public relations, said on Saturday. "That's why we made the changes we did."
Umpires will witness the balls being removed from "the humidor," the temperature- and atmospheric pressure-controlled chamber; watch them as they're taken to the field; and be able to see them at all times. The baseballs have been kept in a bag near the Rockies' dugout during play. So the umps are now sitting on the balls at Coors Field. Didn't realize that.
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Post #398,437
1/23/15 3:15:30 PM
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Tom Brady talks "Deflate-Gate"
Satan (impatiently) to Newcomer: The trouble with you Chicago people is, that you think you are the best people down here; whereas you are merely the most numerous.
- - - Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's New Calendar" 1897
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Post #398,787
2/1/15 10:09:33 PM
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J is very happy. :-)
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Post #398,794
2/2/15 12:31:43 AM
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why not? pat defense won the game
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
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Post #398,801
2/2/15 12:42:45 PM
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I didn't watch it.
But my daughter did and avoiding hearing who won is virtually impossible in Murica. But, it occurred to me that the Patriots should have won. They are the very essence of America's Team. That they come from the place that gave us Mitt Romney and too many Vulture Capitalist firms to count just underscores why they represent all that is truly American since the 1980's. In America, cheaters, liars and thieves (particularly those from the North East) are the only winners today and for the foreseeable future. They are, as virtually all of them will tell you, the only people who really matter.
It is only right and proper that this group win the Superbowl for their very, very important fans.
Boston Strong.
Yes, I can smell it from here.
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Post #398,805
2/2/15 2:14:36 PM
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The Patriots aren't from Manhattan. HTH.
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Post #398,811
2/2/15 4:37:32 PM
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Boston/Manhattan/Same thing.
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Post #404,129
8/18/15 11:24:55 PM
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Richard Mayhew makes a good point.
Balloon-Juice: A referee thought on deflating balls
Posted by Richard Mayhew at 3:56 pm
Aug 18 2015
The entire Deflategate mess is a mess. As soon as the NFL lost control of the information flow the process that they engaged in looks at best shoddy, haphazard, idiotic and extemperaneous, and at worst like a stooge’s marathon conspiracy to get the Patriots somehow.
There is one piece of evidence in the entire Wells report that has always been bugging me as a referee.
During the 2014 Patriots versus Jets game, the referees fucked up. They allowed balls that were 16 PSI to be used for the entire game. Brady did not like how they felt and bitched about it to the Patriots equipment guys. One of the Patriots equipment guys texted to his fiancee that he had been chewed out for setting the balls to 16 instead of 13 PSI. The following week, the Patriots presented all of the game balls to the referees set at 12.5 PSI (the lowest legal limit) and gave the refs a print-out of the relevant NFL rules with the range either circled or highlighted.
If there was not a quasi-scandal that has resulted from this, this would be notable to the referees as it is a dick move on a minor piece of trifling bullshit that no one really cares about. If the NFL cared about ball air pressure they would know about the Ideal Gas Law, they would know about shrinkage, they would not let teams control the balls between measurement and play. This was a no one gives a shit rule, and the Patriots decided to show the refs up.
Speaking as a referee, if a team shows me the league rules about a minor trifling equipment specification, I’m going to first look very intently at that team’s own equipment for the same trifling rule violation before I look at the other team. It invites additional attention on a nothingburger. As a referee, the fact that the Patriots gave the refs a highlighted page out of the rule book, knowing that this invites heightened scrutiny on their own balls, is some of the strongest evidence that nothing was happening. Yup. Cheers, Scott.
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Post #404,140
8/19/15 1:01:48 PM
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Brady may be one of the best qb's to ever play the game
he may even be the best, but he is the king of the greasy win. Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
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Post #404,145
8/19/15 1:59:16 PM
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Are your arms tired yet?
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Post #404,147
8/19/15 2:35:51 PM
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I'm always tired. Nothing to do with flapping arms though. ;-)
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Post #404,181
8/20/15 2:46:52 PM
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