Philae lander to make contact with comet 67P.
http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/Rosetta
SCIENCE, BITCHES!
http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/Rosetta
SCIENCE, BITCHES!
![]() Philae lander to make contact with comet 67P. http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/Rosetta SCIENCE, BITCHES! |
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![]() -- Drew |
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![]() No images yet, but it sounds good. [edit] I need to stop watching the live feed. There won't be pictures for a while yet, so it's just a bunch of guys with funny accents talking about telemetry and looking nervous. -- Drew |
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![]() Fuck yeah! |
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![]() ... and I don't know what feed he's following ... they're no longer sure the harpoons worked. Anxious ... -- Drew |
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![]() Alex "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." -- Isaac Asimov |
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![]() -- Drew |
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![]() here. Earlier summary here. Some pithy comments (Replies open @RH margin)
Anti-intellectual US ain't new; now it's worse that (ever?? remains to be seen) Because:
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![]() Here. Pity.. that 10 years ago they had not the battery power-density of today :-/ Cosmic ill-Humour re the recalcitrant Two! gadgets.. for screwing-In instead of -Up. :-/ (They were Right that these devices were bloody-necessary; +1 for foresight.) [Optional, some comments exchanged with a physics cohort And a suggestion.. tyrellcorporation • 14 hours agoAnd an opinion.. daviecrockett • 2 days agoAnd mine: me too.. What an exquisitely choreographed crash-course in the genius of Newton and the n-folk standing on his shoulders, since.. We'll never know fershure IF.. the screw-in device really could have functioned [torque!] as tested, hoped--but only in our 1 G grav. field--(I guess..) How Do you simulate a .001 G field? More accurately: simulate such, within a static field 1000X stronger. A game of pocket billiards with dandelions? Lastly, a bit of Econ: Barry Kort moscowhead • 2 days ago Thou. sayest. |
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![]() Suspend the lander and a comet-analogue sideways by very long wires. The longer the wires, the more consistent the artificial gravity as the objects move. Move the suspension points closer or farther apart to simulate different gravities. See if the screws push them apart or dig in. -- Drew |
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![]() Nicely reasoned. Prelude: You have a massless, infinitely strong 'wire' with mass M attached. Theoretically a gnat's wing brushing this (infinitesimally-thin) wire produces an infinite force. Did everyone get that 'Problem' in a test? Yeah, for a mere 0.001 G (and lots of calibrations of the non-ideal Osmium tungstate wire's modulus/elasticity): could get you some ballpark results. 'Course that's in 2-D. Should make a lovely physics Final Q. But in 3-D when the torque, screw config/shape are added-in. Wonder how they modeled it, because when you try to estimate any "realistic" volume avge. density for the comet ya gets a family of possible solutions re the pitch, necessary length of the drill-bit. Some Problem! Guess: maybe they did use 'wires', after the computer simulations? with all the various moduli in a humongous equation Pity about the Mass problem (for every piece of equipment aboard): you must have wanted to bracket the solutions and have a bizarre screw shape, starting with thin at the point and going to gradually coarser 'threads' along the permissible length. I see, too: 'radius of gyration' amidst the clutter. Betting that aerogel was one medium employed. Base-problem: Time! Ya gots to get the gadget to function during the initial n Sec of compressive contact; embedding must complete ... before the whatever tensile strength of the surface gets tested! Pisser.. not now to know if all their machinations were close-enough. (Let's do it again, but heavier modules, more boost into orbits than planetary slingshots, etc.) Use the entire dis-US Military Budget: make jobs/but with no collateral-deaths in the expenditures. |
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![]() http://www.dlr.de/rd/Portaldata/28/Resources/dokumente/rx/Philae_Lander_FactSheets.pdf (12 page .pdf) The text is part of an image, so I can't easily copy and paste. :-( Lots of interesting technology in the little beastie. Cheers, Scott. |
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![]() "Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable." ~ AMBROSE BIERCE (1842-1914) |
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![]() I know nominal mission end is in January, because Philae is expected to be too hot by then. If Rosetta is also expected to burn up, I'd really love for them to fly her in close enough for an actual photo of Philae on the surface first. -- Drew |
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![]() http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/Rosetta/Frequently_asked_questions How long will the Rosetta spacecraft operate? It sounds like they will be doing science with Rosetta even after Philae stops working. Apparently the camera on Rosetta has a resolution of 2 cm per pixel at its normal operating conditions. November 15 report: From now on, no contact will be possible unless sufficient sunlight falls on the solar panels to generate enough power to wake it up. The possibility that this may happen later in the mission was boosted when mission controllers sent commands to rotate the lander’s main body with its fixed solar panels. This should have exposed more panel area to sunlight. Maybe they'll find it during one of the 8km "fly bys". Fingers crossed. Cheers, Scott. |
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![]() http://www.geekwire.com/2016/rosetta-probe-finds-philae-lander-comet-crack/ ![]() An extreme close-up of the Philae lander shows components of the 3-foot-wide spacecraft from a distance of 1.7 miles. (Credit: ESA / Rosetta / MPS for OSIRIS Team / UPD / LAM / IAA / SSO / INTA / UPM / DASP / IDA) Poor thing! :-( (via Alan Boyle on G+) Cheers, Scott. |
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![]() -- Drew |
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![]() Love. It. (Wish the pics were better quality.) Thanks for the sleuthing. While their comments don't state specifically, does it not look as if they indeed tried to anticipate the fact that the largely un-testable landing MO had many ways to send the sucker all golly-wampus? And given their use of a Primary-cell for initial power (presumably for max. energy density) it looks as if quite enough of the roster got attended-to, from first contact; haven't yet checked-in today, to see if that snazzy sample probe got somehow to acquire some evanescent samples The ESS (elect. support sys.) must have been a test of all logic yet explored re. Fail-safe, redundancy, idiot-proofing; hope they pass on whatever was innovative (12? 14 years ago) to see if it could have been built any better, at all(?) Maybe a benign confluence, free via warming-assistance can reposition the lander enough for enough energy to try clever commands.. like using the legs' K.E. as "rockers", pushers etc. Anyway, deeming this to be some sort of massive failure, is an insult to all responsible for this near-perfect field-trip, ongoing. Beats the NYT Crossword for Science Suspense.. |
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![]() at least the kibitzers are literate, as the Standard Model predictions, recaps of the inertial-hammer & screw are dissected (in the pop-up blogs for each Topic.) Kibitzers here seem disdainful of the performance (after 10 Years! in stasis..) and are already imputing some cover-ups within esa's offered interpretations of the first data releases; seems a bit pissy to me. After this long a wait and all those n! risks, I deem this attitude churlish; after all, the assumptions in overall design are today 13+ years out of date. Pity about the failures in harpoons, but such was well within the long-Odds, byotches. Tonight on PBS, a reprise: To Catch a Comet. So far, some good pics, comments. Nice lab demo of sublimation (there was some surprise that a coma was forming this early on G.) They had to do a record-long burn to accelerate closure. Etc. Then the nascent coma stopped! Suspense.. One thing is unarguable: these Euro guys know how to compute celestial mechanics to a fare-thee-well; had a couple small things occurred with Curiosity's check-list ... well, you know. |
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![]() It helps to use only one system of measurements. In this case it's metric. Furlongs per fortnight for speed and mousefarts for force might work also. But, I have my doubts. :) Alex "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." -- Isaac Asimov |
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![]() I consider myself lucky I can get the snowblower to fire up without having to take it apart to the de-ice the carburator, having some things not wanting to move after 10+ years in the ultimate deep freezer is not all that shabby. |