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New It is called...
Religious or Racial or Gender or Sexual Orientation intolerance (or other intolerance)... And it is a bad thing and itself is intolerable and should be shamed. Period.

PERIOD

You of all people should get that, many of us here find your cretinous views on this particular subject very horrible... yet we tolerate you just fine. Some would probably say "suffer"... :D
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greg@gregfolkert.net
"No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible." --Stanislaw Jerzy Lec
Collapse Edited by folkert June 24, 2014, 11:13:29 AM EDT
It is called...
Racial or Gender or Sexual Orientation intolerance (or other intolerance)... And it is a bad thing and itself is intolerable and should be shamed. Period.

PERIOD

You of all people should get that, many of us here find your cretinous views on this particular subject very horrible... yet we tolerate you just fine. Some would probably say "suffer"... :D
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greg@gregfolkert.net
"No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible." --Stanislaw Jerzy Lec
New I've no argument with you.
Religious or Racial or Gender or Sexual Orientation intolerance (or other intolerance)... And it is a bad thing and itself is intolerable and should be shamed.

I quite agree. The point I'm trying to make is that those who embrace intolerance will never have their opinions changed via legislation.
New No, they won't.
But they will most definitely have their actions constrained by such.
New Only Punitively.
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greg@gregfolkert.net
"No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible." --Stanislaw Jerzy Lec
New True.
But that's how some societal change works.

Just like the racists, they can adapt or die (or at least die under a mountain of paperwork caused by their appearances in court).
New After the fact though loses much of its impact...
because that they got away with it, at least initially.

Many will "do it again" and pay again... until you change the forward-bias thinking, the retro-bias damages and punishments just won't be enough or work to help erase the bias. In fact, the retro-bias against, will in many cases INCREASE the forward-bais... many fold, as "those damned (gays/niggers/kikes/chinks/whops/etc) caused me to have to pay those reparations and I'll get them... you'll see, I'll get them."

So, they only learn by being FORCED to deal with it... personally and majorly out in the open, subject to public scrutiny... as the saying goes:

Those more you tell a lie, the more you believe it!

But it goes both ways much of the time.
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greg@gregfolkert.net
"No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible." --Stanislaw Jerzy Lec
New Ok. Understand achieved on this.
I still think intolerance is for closed minded people.
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greg@gregfolkert.net
"No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible." --Stanislaw Jerzy Lec
     human sexuality is not a simple thing - (boxley) - (54)
         Here's the link to the first page - (drook)
         Gay? - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
             I'm impressed. - (folkert)
             (Second the Gregster's approval of no less than, wisdom-espied.) -NT - (Ashton)
         "the Gay and Lesbian Task Force in Washington, D.C." Holy crap. - (mmoffitt) - (49)
             why not? the white hetro christian right wing has a task force -NT - (boxley)
             not clear, mmoffitt - (rcareaga) - (47)
                 I bow to thy superior Google-foo - (Ashton)
                 I'd honestly prefer closets nailed shut, as you suggest. - (mmoffitt) - (45)
                     Google is your friend. - (Another Scott)
                     you are black, so what. You are hispanic so what. you are muslim so what - (boxley) - (4)
                         (Believe I mentioned that small impediment, earlier-on?) in a thread far-away. - (Ashton)
                         Well, paint rose colored glasses on me then. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                             Where did you get that idea? - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                 Right on, bro! -NT - (a6l6e6x)
                     The problem? - (pwhysall) - (38)
                         I am *NOT* putting my head in that game. - (mmoffitt) - (37)
                             Finally, something you can fix - (drook)
                             but the game is giving you head - (rcareaga) - (35)
                                 Another thing: - (rcareaga) - (34)
                                     Join the pack, iow. - (mmoffitt) - (33)
                                         Dude. Stop. - (pwhysall)
                                         Believe I've seen those movies - (rcareaga)
                                         trivial minority? - (crazy) - (29)
                                             And a timely example. - (Andrew Grygus) - (28)
                                                 On the other hand, I liked this - (crazy) - (2)
                                                     We had an event right here in La Crescenta. - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                                         Perfect. They're being minimalized. - (mmoffitt)
                                                 And won't the Presbyterian Church (USA) be better off? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (24)
                                                     Yes in my opinion... - (folkert) - (23)
                                                         But I think it is. - (mmoffitt) - (22)
                                                             group A doesn't like rap or salsa -NT - (boxley)
                                                             It is called... - (folkert) - (6)
                                                                 I've no argument with you. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                                                                     No, they won't. - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                                                         Only Punitively. -NT - (folkert) - (2)
                                                                             True. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                                 After the fact though loses much of its impact... - (folkert)
                                                                     Ok. Understand achieved on this. - (folkert)
                                                             Let's accept your premise - (drook) - (12)
                                                                 Re: should laws exist that are based on what we call "marriage" - (mmoffitt) - (11)
                                                                     moffat CCA works - (boxley) - (5)
                                                                         What about adoptions? -NT - (folkert) - (2)
                                                                             same way we do it now, register them -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                                 But you said DNA... - (folkert)
                                                                         DNA isn't simple, and it's getting more complicated. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                             great, bring that up in your criminal trial, see how far you get :-) -NT - (boxley)
                                                                     Counterpoint from the Great White North. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                                                         Heh. I guess I'm a lexicographer. - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                                                             nails it exactly - (boxley) - (2)
                                                                                 The origins of marriage are civil - (jake123) - (1)
                                                                                     ¡Precísamente! - (Ashton)
                                                             Couldn't 'say' with any possible corroboration the source of your intransigence on this issue-set, - (Ashton)
                                         As an oft-contrarian I feel a smidgen-of-your-pain - (Ashton)

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