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Post #384,346
by folkert
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12/17/13 10:33:51 PM
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New Oh...
I'd be surprised if the NSA is significantly more enlightened.
The NSA is very well enlightened to the cretin you and all of us are. They've know more about us than any of us should be comfortable with. This includes Another Scott.

The more and more money they spend off the books, the more and more storage and "Meta Data" pointing at "Real Data" they will have to reference. The 8"x10" pichures... well they gots a slew of them... and more all the time.

Wave.

Yes, it sucks.
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greg@gregfolkert.net
"No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible." --Stanislaw Jerzy Lec
Post #384,349
by Ashton
12/17/13 11:40:34 PM
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New Believe that 'enlightenment' has a long history as a symbol
for quite-More than: mindless accumulation of and Boolean manipulation of, mere 'data'. Let us Save that word, please.
This distinction is as important as the.. say, relationships of data to information, information to knowledge, knowledge to wisdom
--and most importantly: an ability to tell the Difference.
[No, there are No 'algorithms' in that arena for making the process easy for simpletons or the diseased.]

(The Ministry of Truth--preceding 'chronologically' the NSA--was engaged in hourly revising history so as to accord with today's need for a consistent justification for:
all the other goings-on in that little parable.)

Kurt V. could explain it-all lots more colorfully. But he died.

PS: "The Enlightenment", celebrated via its becoming "an Era" happened. But as its principles are today an 'endangered species'
--perhaps soon that "Era" shall be re-Named? Then, if there's a next-generation, it shall never have existed.
And so it Goes.




     former US ambassador to the Saudis - (rcareaga) - (51) - Dec. 16, 2013, 05:56:45 PM EST
         There is some judicial pushback. - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - Dec. 16, 2013, 08:13:51 PM EST
             Careful what we wish for... - (Another Scott) - (1) - Dec. 16, 2013, 08:55:26 PM EST
                 the balloon juicer flails rather nicely - (boxley) - Dec. 16, 2013, 09:45:49 PM EST
         Sorry to say, no. - (Another Scott) - (41) - Dec. 16, 2013, 08:41:13 PM EST
             So, Scott... - (rcareaga) - (26) - Dec. 16, 2013, 09:29:46 PM EST
                 dead naked woman or live young boy wouldnt make a difference - (boxley) - Dec. 16, 2013, 09:46:48 PM EST
                 He's offering an opinion piece - it's not persuasive to me. - (Another Scott) - (24) - Dec. 16, 2013, 10:39:14 PM EST
                     Re: He's offering an opinion piece - it's not persuasive to - (pwhysall) - (20) - Dec. 17, 2013, 01:50:03 AM EST
                         nothing, we are entitled to your emails - (boxley) - Dec. 17, 2013, 08:45:59 AM EST
                         Re: He's offering an opinion piece - it's not persuasive to - (Another Scott) - (18) - Dec. 17, 2013, 08:51:36 AM EST
                             Re: He's offering an opinion piece - it's not persuasive to - (pwhysall) - (17) - Dec. 18, 2013, 01:25:42 AM EST
                                 And that's our protection. - (Another Scott) - (16) - Dec. 18, 2013, 08:07:08 AM EST
                                     Heh, no it's not. - (pwhysall) - (10) - Dec. 18, 2013, 08:32:54 AM EST
                                         It's not their mission. - (Another Scott) - (9) - Dec. 18, 2013, 10:25:05 AM EST
                                             Well said! - (a6l6e6x) - Dec. 18, 2013, 11:40:36 AM EST
                                             Here's my problem - (drook) - (1) - Dec. 18, 2013, 01:30:05 PM EST
                                                 Ok. And there's probably a good recent example of that... - (Another Scott) - Dec. 18, 2013, 12:16:50 PM EST
                                             Aw, come on. - (pwhysall) - (5) - Dec. 18, 2013, 12:36:59 PM EST
                                                 <sigh> - (Another Scott) - (3) - Dec. 18, 2013, 12:54:48 PM EST
                                                     Scott, here's how they get around all that - (pwhysall) - Dec. 18, 2013, 01:08:24 PM EST
                                                     That argument I'm sympathetic to - (drook) - (1) - Dec. 18, 2013, 01:35:05 PM EST
                                                         :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Dec. 18, 2013, 01:36:38 PM EST
                                                 Meanwhile, in 1941, the Brits in Bermuda... - (a6l6e6x) - Dec. 18, 2013, 01:14:58 PM EST
                                     J'Accuse..! that you are failing to - (Ashton) - (4) - Dec. 18, 2013, 06:55:56 PM EST
                                         That's why the people working there matter. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Dec. 18, 2013, 07:56:01 PM EST
                                             need an James Angleton - (boxley) - Dec. 18, 2013, 09:18:12 PM EST
                                             Fair. enough. - (Ashton) - (1) - Dec. 18, 2013, 10:24:27 PM EST
                                                 Thanks. I'll keep thinking about these things... -NT - (Another Scott) - Dec. 18, 2013, 10:51:09 PM EST
                     'it's not persuasive' ... ... ... - (Ashton) - (2) - Dec. 17, 2013, 02:01:07 AM EST
                         Some answers. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Dec. 17, 2013, 11:41:41 AM EST
                             Agreed.. our laundry-lists are similar enough. - (Ashton) - Dec. 17, 2013, 04:14:34 PM EST
             "Snowden is a coward." - (rcareaga) - (12) - Dec. 16, 2013, 09:46:52 PM EST
                 "let's surrender some safety to keep ourselves free." yup -NT - (boxley) - (5) - Dec. 16, 2013, 09:48:21 PM EST
                     "let's surrender some guns to keep ourselves free." - (folkert) - (4) - Dec. 16, 2013, 10:14:17 PM EST
                         so when are you turning yours in? - (boxley) - (3) - Dec. 16, 2013, 10:18:35 PM EST
                             So giving up your safety (aka guns)... - (folkert) - (2) - Dec. 16, 2013, 11:36:46 PM EST
                                 why? I know yours are not - (boxley) - (1) - Dec. 17, 2013, 12:02:20 AM EST
                                     Nope. Of course you don't read for comprehension. - (folkert) - Dec. 17, 2013, 12:05:32 AM EST
                 On Manning. - (Another Scott) - (5) - Dec. 16, 2013, 10:48:56 PM EST
                     pollard is out? thats news to me -NT - (boxley) - (2) - Dec. 16, 2013, 10:55:10 PM EST
                         He's approaching 30 years. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Dec. 16, 2013, 11:00:51 PM EST
                             Noises about him possibly being released soon. - (Another Scott) - March 31, 2014, 10:19:49 PM EDT
                     Pollard to be out on parole in November. - (Another Scott) - (1) - July 28, 2015, 02:50:22 PM EDT
                         Pollard released today. 5 years parole in US. - (Another Scott) - Nov. 20, 2015, 10:09:30 PM EST
             Fair Trial. Heh. Like the Rosenbergs? Sacco and Vanzetti? -NT - (mmoffitt) - Dec. 17, 2013, 11:45:09 AM EST
         having read this thread - (rcareaga) - (5) - Dec. 17, 2013, 10:15:36 PM EST
             Oh... - (folkert) - (1) - Dec. 17, 2013, 10:33:51 PM EST
                 Believe that 'enlightenment' has a long history as a symbol - (Ashton) - Dec. 17, 2013, 11:40:34 PM EST
             'Turnkey totalitarianism'; its causality is enshrined within - (Ashton) - (1) - Dec. 17, 2013, 11:00:19 PM EST
                 We Have Built It and... - (rcareaga) - Dec. 17, 2013, 11:23:32 PM EST
             That wouldn't be so bad... - (mmoffitt) - Dec. 20, 2013, 10:25:47 AM EST

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