Re: Lumia 1020 ordered.

Post #380,838 by pwhysall 9/17/13 12:10:30 PM Reply	Re: Lumia 1020 ordered. I've not missed any apps - but then I've never been particularly "app-y". And I've got a Windows PC, so I'm not really sure what your point is. I could get a phone with more apps like an SGS4 or an IP5S, but then they'd have worse cameras and more unpleasant operating systems for me to use, so it'd be a worse phone, and what would be the point of that?
Post #380,847 by Another Scott 9/17/13 12:46:11 PM Reply	But you're can't join the collective that way!
Post #381,329 by pwhysall 9/27/13 4:40:38 AM Reply	I has it. Wottafone. The camera is spectacular. The screen is great; Nokia have nailed down this "pureblack" thing and produced an AMOLED screen that is vivid and has accurate colour. Fit and finish on the phone is even better than the 920, which is going some. As an early ordererer, I got a bonus pack including a wireless charging plate, the necessary cover for the phone to use that, the camera grip cover (which gives you a nicer shutter release button and a honking big battery) and a tripod. That's £140-ish of goodies, right there. I also got a £50 credit with Mazuma Mobile (a phone recycling company), so when I send in my old phones, I'll get a few extra quid. The tariff is £39/mo, and I get 500 minutes, 5000 texts and, most importantly, unlimited data including tethering. Well hello there, Xbox Music. Come and sit next to me, Netflix.
Post #381,382 by boxley 9/28/13 7:12:44 PM Reply	we have an unlimited data plan as well except that when you hit 2gb in the month 3g is all you get Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
Post #381,393 by hnick 9/29/13 10:08:08 AM Reply	OK, I'm confused Are you being ironic or have you abandoned language entirely?
Post #381,394 by drook 9/29/13 10:57:31 AM Reply	Neither It's an unlimited plan, but after 2G(igabytes) it switches to 3G (vs 4G) speed. -- Drew
Post #381,411 by pwhysall 9/30/13 3:13:05 AM Reply	Interesting. I'm assuming for a moment that this is an LTE/4G plan, so you get your ten minutes of quick data then you're on 3G. Given the patchy coverage of LTE, does 3G data count against your 2GB allowance? Cuz it'd be a bit naff to burn through your paltry 2GB on 3G (easily done if you're streaming music or video) then not receive any 4G lovin', for which you are presumably paying a handsome premium (well, in the US, it seems that everyone's plans are reassuringly expensive, but it's all relative, right?).
Post #381,443 by boxley 9/30/13 9:03:00 PM Reply	yes it counts, yes it sucks glad phones are tax deductable Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
Post #381,450 by jake123 10/1/13 7:09:18 AM Reply	Ya think it's bad for them you should check out my country. We take it top pocket on a monthly basis. PAYG a text is .40$. No shit. It's fucked here.
Post #381,453 by folkert 10/1/13 9:03:18 AM Reply	Nice... On past months I have a bad month, I'll get 15,000 texts from my monitoring systems. Cripes, that'd be $6K. Awesome. -- greg@gregfolkert.net "No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible." --Stanislaw Jerzy Lec
Post #381,460 by pwhysall 10/1/13 10:28:44 AM Reply	Wait, what? You pay for incoming texts? Dude. Uncool.
Post #381,467 by folkert 10/1/13 10:59:49 AM Reply	Yep, I used to ... Switch to unlimited data and texts a long while back... Except after 6GB it is throttled. Also only get 2100 minutes to share 'tween 5 phone and a dongle. -- greg@gregfolkert.net "No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible." --Stanislaw Jerzy Lec
Post #381,471 by drook 10/1/13 11:10:27 AM Reply	Not any more, but ... I used to carry a company-issued pager. All of us got notifications whenever our code threw an error. One day someone put an error in a tight loop and had notifications enabled from his dev environment. All our pagers started lighting up. It took over 30 seconds before one of us was able to open it and figure out where it was coming from. "CHRIS! WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!?!?!?!" "Huh? Oh, is that me?" We had to call AT&T and ask them to empty all 13 of our inboxes ... including any "real" messages caught in the crossfire. They ranged from 11k to over 17k per box. And we were supposed to be charged per message. The alternative to having them delete everything would have cost 5 figures. -- Drew
Post #381,480 by jake123 10/1/13 1:09:57 PM Reply	There are people who do here and yeah, it's totally uncool. If you're on PAYG, you pay for incoming texts, or you pop up ten bucks a month for a texting plan. Our regulatory agency on the telecoms here (the CRTC) used to be decent, but nowadays it's a prime example of regulatory capture in Canada: there's a revolving door between it and the executive level people in the telecoms.
Post #381,481 by drook 10/1/13 1:14:09 PM Reply	Refresh my memory The reason texts are 140 characters is that's the amount of bandwidth available in the network ping, so it's essentially free (from a bandwidth perspective) for the telcos, right? -- Drew
Post #381,482 by jake123 10/1/13 1:18:13 PM Reply	No SMS originated as a messaging protocol to carry debugging messages from devices that were being remotely debugged to make sure they worked properly on the cell network. It's a fixed length packet, with a 140 byte payload. You can get 160 characters in it when you use a 7bit char set specifically designed to work with SMS. The engineers working on the devices wrote a little thing into the firmwares to be able to compose messages and send them to other devices, probably so they could troll each other, and the rest, as they say, is history.
Post #381,510 by static 10/2/13 12:33:29 AM Reply	It's what happened because the US was late to GSM. :-) I'm being only partly cynical. But I remember reading somewhere that when the US telcos looked at providing GSM, they noticed what features customers elsewhere in the world made popular and figured out ways to charge for them. We don't pay in AU for incoming calls or texts, either. Wade. Just Add Story http://justaddstory.wordpress.com/

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