Nit: Terminal never needed X.
Have fun. Free stuff is good.
Re: Well damn.
Nit: Terminal never needed X.
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well... ok.
Yes it did... every time I ran it.
I have a shell script to aid me logging into machines with auth-forwarding and X11 channel forwarding display support. On Lion, its not needed until an X11 connection is actually attempted, then it starts X. mini:~ greg$ cat `which sshx` #!/bin/bash ssh -X -A -t host.somedomain.com ssh -X -A $* Meh... I dunno. Could be wrong. |
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Re: well... ok.
You presumably need X to do your X forwarding things, which you do when you login. I dunno - I've never done this, only ever using SSH to obtain CLI access.
But to just run up an instance of Terminal.app and type "ls"? No X required, nor ever has been. I never even had X installed on Jo's iBook, which came with 10.3, and did plenty of terminalacular things on it (most notably doing "sudo softwareupdate -i -a"). |
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Re: well... ok.
I understand what you *just* said. Your particular usage of terminal.app did not even have X installed. Ok. Fine and dandy. Yours worked Just fine. I get that. You are the *MAN*. You NIT proven.
Did you catch what I said. Behavior changed from the last time I used it. Its been seriously dressed up and works very nicely. Previous to Lion, *If* I started terminal.app with X11 channel forwarding enabled, I had to wait for X to start up and services be offered and fully functional to continue on. As of Lion, If* I started terminal.app with X11 channel forwarding enabled, I don't have to wait for X to start, it just goes and works. My first X11 display request made... *THEN* X jumps up and shows up on my Dock Bar. Perhaps you should have just asked a bit before just being contrary and annoying. And yes, Free stuff is good. |
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What is the matter with you? Box piss in your coffee?
You didn't state a "particular usage" of Terminal. You simply said that it no longer requires X to work.
...and it no longer has to start *X* to work Greg, it never required X to work. It required X to do X-alicious things and only to do X-alicious things. You made it sound as though if you got a Mac out of the box, fired it up, and ran Terminal, then you'd get you some X lovin'. You don't. Never have. But if you do things with X, well fuck me sideways, you need X. No argument there. The one being contrary and annoying is you. I simply pointed out a minor point and you couldn't gracefully concede. |
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Please.
Just FOFF and choose to never respond to me.
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Not a chance.
You could just stop being an arse, though.
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You could also choose to not be one.
But then, you are British. Its still not an excuse though.
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I'm rubber, you're glue?
Are you this childish when someone gently corrects you in real life? I doubt it.
Fact: you said Terminal.app used to need X. You didn't quite mean it as flatly as that, but that's what you said. Fact: It didn't, and I said so (without judgement or criticism) Fact: You turned into a massive ranting asshat instead of going "oh, cool. Never knew that. >learns<" And you'll probably rant some more when you read this, whether you do it on here, out loud, or in your head. I treat exchanges like this as learning opportunities. I'm really not seeing what I've done wrong here, but I stand to be enlightened. |
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_pw
Out of the WHOLE post, you chose to respond to *one* fricking item that was inconsequential to the whole story. True perhaps a bit misleading in history... but its effing history. You are always the odd man out with the "WFM" mentality and discount much stuff with derogatory or disrespecting or disparaging or denigrating comments. Quit. Like this piece of history matters.
I do exactly that same stuff to you and you call me out on it for being an arse. You are British, you can't help yourself, I see that now. You just like to stir the pot, especially when it comes to me. |
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Rofly Lollers
NOW you're all about respect? Aw, did I hurt oo's feewings? Shall we sit down and sing kum ba yah together?
Forsooth! I'm glad I wore my corset, otherwise I fear my sides might split! I wasn't stirring the pot, you egoistic solipsist. Jesus, I am so fucking British right now, it hurts. |
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lrpd the bottom three
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
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definitely the last one
"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow |
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No.
I am not all about respect... if you see that... you are seeing things.
Hurting my feelings? Meh... you aren't even close to being a big of an arse as some of these motorcycle groups I hang out with. Are you sure you know those big words in there? I was afraid I wouldn't get through. So how is using that thesaurus going for you? Isn't "egoistic solipsist" the same thing, as a solipsist is egoistic? I believe you have much more self-import than I do, since you are the one trumpeting your self assured rightness. Yes, you stir the pot when I'm involved. Yes, you are British and I hope it *DOES* hurt. |
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Give up now
This is a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
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Oh so you admit it then.
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>slayed<
Yes, I admit it.
My massive British arsitude falls at the feet of your sheer awesomeness. That must be it, yes. ETA: You utter, utter tit. |
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I'm sorry you lost.
Before you utter or write a challenge... It would be great idea to be sure it means what you want it to mean.
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Re: I'm sorry you lost.
Get you, with your amazing sophistry. I bet your milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
You're still wrong, by the way. Wrong, wrong, wrongy mcwrong. But what would I know? How could my meagre British brain stand up to your mighty American (fuck yeah!) intellect? |
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I see you can't stand it. I see you shaking there.
I'm sorry, you just can't take it.
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Bored now
No doubt you will take the opportunity to seize upon this as your victory token, and, quite honestly, who am I to deny a man a small if illusory and slightly sad pleasure?
I now leave you to your whoopin' and hollerin'. |
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Of course now you just can't just walk away...
you'll take you ball home and go pout.
Just like a someone who cannot take be gotten over on. Meh... you are just a sore loser. |
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Look over there!
(Time to change the subject. That one's boring.)
A joke to tell someone who's not a Marine: http://usmilitary.ab.../a/notamarine.htm :-) Cheers, Scott. |
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Long walk off a short pier
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Jeez. Guys.
I Understand..
that BOTH of you have Black Belts in CL munging via fone, laptop or maybe a rilly-Expanded bluetooth-in-ear? Both explanations I (believe I grok-to-fullness) re Lion and previous: simple logic blah blah, BUT... Does Someone Always Have To WinÂ? even when there is really NO palpable "misunderstanding", just nits.. nits.. (Meanwhile as the US races to bananahood, the Euro (coin + amalgamated 'States') fight to remain relevant, and weird Pod-People are >THIS< CLOSE to killing-off the last vestiges of intelligence within the Murican mass, via Billionaire mass-attacks on language itself ...) ..Guess my tolerance for auto-nit-picking has worn out, during the Burning of Brains, the ongoing blizzards of fatuous phrases by pusillanimous pipsqueaks like David Brooks ... ... and all the Other idiocies which a one Cannot become inured-to :-/ |
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+ Infinity+1
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well...
He is British, its in his nature to be a nit-picking prick. Its just to bad.
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I didn't read it that way. FWIW.
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then exactly *how did* you read it?
Perhaps you should offline the explanation.
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Mit meinen Augen.
;-)
It's not worth continuing the argument. I was just trying to reduce apparent tensions, not trying to place blame (I'm sorry if it seemed that way). Cheers, Scott. |
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Ummm... they seem to work that way... funny that.
Anyway... if you could just elaborate for me in the e-mail address you know.
I'd kindly appreciate it. You see, I guess being that close to it, I'm a bit myopic. |
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It's not about any of that.
It's about a completely disproportionate response to someone going "blah blah FOO" and someone else going "uh, actually, blah blah BAZ".
But apparently, being British makes me an arse. I'd agree with that, of course. But that doesn't mean I'm going to back down when someone contradicts me; that goes double for when (a) I know I'm right and (b) they do it in a rude and impolite manner. Because being a British arse means I value manners. |
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Clear enough.
Solipsism does seem to be a significant part of the titration of Murica's fav Kool-AidÂ, though I've yet to submit a sample of that for analysis.
As to being British ... For all of Blighty's foibles, few can match the Sargasso Sea of our local ones, ever since the Massacree of the unCivil war (as still festers in Southern Parts of this disUnited mosh-pit of Mental-States. I'll continue to envy those within the Sceptered Isle, if for no provable constellation of virtues, say--then because, it is far(-enough) distant from our mouldering Has-been fanatical waste-makers/Consumers of ... Anything within reach, regardless of how that affliction affects the entire bloody planet's chances for recovery (from that pure-greed, originally spawned/marketed! by U.S. as a Good thing.) And besides, Stevenage exists there: Just found in basement two B/W prints of the Thought Police, kindly sent to me by, ASSOCIATED BRITISH PICTURE CORP, from their 1984 flic. The Ministry of Truth is the perfect background! Their worthies were equipped, on-screen, with a bevy of Series D machines (the last Vincents/with fairings), here shown close-up. Looks as if they merely removed the Perspex tops of the front windscreen, made some mudguards with long side-valences, and stenciled a few numbers. Will try to scan-in and find a way to post these.. anon. Believe the VOC (owner's club) volunteered for the bit-parts; I may have corresponded with a rider or two, years before: these were not young-uns! (If you see any of the 42p postage stamps about, Officially commemorating the Black Shadow--please nab me one. eh?) I have the sorta 'First Day' enlargement (post-card size) of the stamp with that familiar machine, rendered in surprising detail. In colour! Ta, |
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Manners are fine and good.
And important.
But... We all get cranky sometimes. We all have buttons that will set us off. We all can have things going on in our lives that make us misinterpret things at times. Let's let it go. Sorry if I contributed to any bad feelings. My "infinity+1" was an attempt at levity and an attempted agreement with Ashton that this wasn't worth arguing about. ÂNo Motto Please, WeÂre British. - http://www.nytimes.c...ml?pagewanted=all :-) Cheers, Scott. |
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Wise words; Awomen.
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Law above fear, justice above law, mercy above justice, love above all. |