X-Box sales starting to flag in US

Post #34,948 by admin 4/10/02 10:09:41 AM Reply	X-Box sales starting to flag in US [link\|http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/24789.html\|At The Reg] Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #35,035 by Meerkat 4/10/02 8:16:27 PM Reply	The early adopters have adopted The rest of us have resumed our collective shoulder-shrug. Guess things will just tick along until the Christmas price wars. GameCube gets launched here in a month and a bit - wonder if the xbox price will drop around that time... Trouble is, since it's a M$ thing, they'll start including them in packets of Cornflakes if it means winning the market, using innovative They Will Stop At Nothing(tm) technology. :( On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John.
Post #35,050 by JayMehaffey 4/10/02 9:59:24 PM Reply	A far bigger factor A far bigger factor, to me anyway, is how amazingly bad Xbox sales have been in Japan. Take a gander at this. Japanese Console sales from March 18th to March 24th: PlayStation 2: 85,370 Xbox: 5,005 GameCube: 34,448 Game Boy Advance: 40,345 PSOne: 7,658 Game Boy Color: 2,439 Wonderswan: 2,772 Not only is Xbox selling a fraction of what PS2 is, but it is selling at a lower rate then PS1! This means that MS isn't even getting a foothold in Japan. MS had to have known that it would lose to the PS2 in Japan over the short term, but these numbers say they are not even putting up a fight. Still, things are early in the game and MS has the money to keep fighting long after other companies would have packed up and gone home. It also has a long history of turning things around after the first product was a failure. Jay
Post #35,111 by boxley 4/11/02 11:50:44 AM Reply	From the Kid front My kids love the xbox, they want me to go to circuit city so they can play the demo's. I have explained that we wont buy one because if sales take off the only thing available for sale will be Microsoft's product. They understand it is my money and I wont get one now, but they do love playing them. thanx, bill TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #35,119 by admin 4/11/02 12:21:14 PM Reply	They don't like the PS/2? Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #35,150 by boxley 4/11/02 2:38:23 PM Reply	Nope prefer xbox TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #35,151 by boxley 4/11/02 2:41:08 PM Reply	Also Microsoft has allied with the Devil Vince McMahon and will be pretty exclusive on the newer wrestling games, which will be an interesting way to take over the gaming community by volume. WWF market share is huge and gates has made personal appearances on the WWF Promoting Xbox. Now laugh if you want the amount of kids that play wrestling games is huge, and if there is cross exclusivity, Gates has his foot in the door. The cost of that is having Vince in yer MS boardroom. Interesting times ahead. thanx, Bill TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #35,177 by orion 4/11/02 5:20:56 PM Reply	Vince and X Vince had the XFl, remember what happened to it? It seems any Non-Wrestling stuff that Vince gets into, tends to flop. Esp things named with an X in their names. XFL and now the XBox. Flush the toliet Vince, the Xbox is done! *I am free now, to choose my own destiny.*
Post #35,176 by orion 4/11/02 5:19:12 PM Reply	Want to know why? It is that big oversized controller that they use. They should license the one from Sega, even the Dreamcast controller is smaller. The best I have seen are Gravis controllers. PS2 controllers are good as well. But the XBox has those two analog controllers on it. Reminds me of the old Coleco Tank video game that was a "Combat" ripoff that had you use two joysticks to move the tanks around, like a real tank? Anyway if the PS2 and Gamecube are getting all the cool games, then the XBox is not going to sell as many units. The best the XBox can do is get their games ported to the PC running Windows 98/ME/2000/XP and make up the losses in PC Game sales. *I am free now, to choose my own destiny.*
Post #35,200 by Meerkat 4/11/02 7:54:52 PM 4/11/02 7:56:54 PM Reply	I belive 'Controller-S' is already on the cards S for Smaller - I think it's same as the controller they supply for Japan. Can't say I followed to xbox news all that closely :) I thought the Dremcast controller was chunky til I saw the xbox one. Dreamcast one is very comfy to use all the same, though a trifle heavy when loaded with a memory unit and a vibration pack. Edit: What the S in Controller-S means On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John. Edited by Meerkat April 11, 2002, 07:56:54 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #35,523 by orion 4/15/02 7:26:11 PM Reply	Good For a while I thought that it was Controller - Sega, as in Sega making a controller for the XBox. I heard that many companies already make a smaller controller for the XBox, but I was not able to find out who they are. *I am free now, to choose my own destiny.*
Post #35,535 by Meerkat 4/15/02 10:53:14 PM Reply	Sega is software-only these days Which is bad, in so far as death of the Dreamcast, but good, in so far as Sonic in GBA & Gamecube. (Might be enough to sway me to get a GBA...) On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John.
Post #35,587 by SpiceWare 4/16/02 11:01:36 AM Reply	If you get a GBA The screen is VERY dark when there's insufficient light. When you have sufficient light then you'll have to contend with major glare issues. I found the best place to play is in my kitchen where I have 2 fluorescent light fixtures that run parallel to each other. If I angle the screen to point between the light fixtures then I don't get any glare and can see the screen. The little "plug in lights" don't work well at all. I've found [link\|http://tritonlabs.com/\|Afterburner], which I've got on order. It's an "internal lighting" solution that will requires the GBA to be opened up to be installed. Take the [link\|http://www.portablemonopoly.com/\|Portable Monopoly] link for more info(note: Hasbro's after them for using "Monopoly" and they're changing the links, not sure how much longer this will be valid - they're going to move everything to the TritonLabs site). Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #35,699 by Meerkat 4/16/02 8:31:12 PM 4/16/02 8:34:26 PM Reply	The lighting is why I don't have one yet. I'd heard ever from their launch that people had been complaining about the screen - and once I saw one, I saw why. A friend of mine has one, and you're right, it needs very strong light to be any good at all. It's great in strong sunlight, if you don't mind getting sunburnt while you play :) The Worm Light add-on isn't bad, but it's really hard to avoid a patch of glare, and even then the brightness isn't uniform across the whole screen. He's ordered an Afterburner, can't wait to see first-hand how well it works. In the meantime, I'll stick to playing Spy Hunter, Glaxian, and Bejwewled on my Visor Prism. Heh, at least it's backlit :-) Edit: A typo in the Subject line - unforgiveable! Edit2: sigh Subject line should be right this time... On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John. Edited by Meerkat April 16, 2002, 08:32:55 PM EDT Edited by Meerkat April 16, 2002, 08:34:26 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #36,041 by orion 4/19/02 5:05:14 PM Reply	The Atari Lynx was the ultimate I have one actually, eats batteries faster than a Windows CE powered device. :) Built in backlight, can even play in total darkness. It also "flips over" for left hand use. Designed by some guys who also worked on the Amiga, went to Epyx, and then sold out to Atari. They thought of almost everything on this unit, but Atari marketing ruined it. AFAIK it was the first color handheld video game. For more info [link\|http://www.atarihq.com/jaglynx/index.html\|[link\|http://www.atarihq.com/jaglynx/index.html\|http://www.atarihq....x/index.html]] *I am free now, to choose my own destiny.*
Post #36,040 by orion 4/19/02 5:00:09 PM Reply	GBA lights You might want to try [link\|http://www.nakiusa.com/54526.html\|THESE]. Spider-Man Action lights. Heh heh! Can it get any goofier? *I am free now, to choose my own destiny.*
Post #35,605 by pwhysall 4/16/02 12:20:39 PM Reply	The Parent's Dilemma Fast-forward to Xmas 2002. Here's what J. Random Parent has to choose from: Baseline console is the Gamecube. Small, cute, the undeniable Mario factor. Doesn't play DVDs. 150 quid. PS2. Sleek. Sexy. Plays DVDs. Cool as fuck. Best controller in the history of the universe. 200 sheets. *Games at a pony a throw. XBox. Powerful. Ugly as fuck. Crap controller (even worse than the DC). Doesn't play DVDs. Expensive games. Three Hundred Smackers. Yeah, XBox will come down in price. Think Nintendo and Sony won't notice? Remember, Sony are now making money* on every PS2 sold - they've covered their development costs a long time since. The Gamecube is cheap as fook to make and didn't cost a fortune to develop. The XBox fulfils neither of these criteria. People, this is NOT rocket science. XBox is dead, it just doesn't know it yet. Sure, you can buy a thingy to let the XBox play DVDs. But who the fuck wants to lay out another 30 notes when you've just plunked down three ton for the thing plus one whole game when the same money gets you a DVD-playing PS2 plus a fistful of games? Technical arguments count for nothing, by the way. Being more powerful didn't save the Saturn and it didn't save the N64. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal]
Post #35,611 by drewk 4/16/02 12:42:30 PM Reply	When you write things like that ... ... you really need to include the link to the translator. 150 quid 200 sheets a pony a throw Three Hundred Smackers cheap as fook 30 notes three ton Have you ever used the same slang twice in one post? === I can't be a Democrat because I like to spend the money I make. I can't be a Republican because I like to spend the money I make on drugs and whores.
Post #35,653 by CRConrad 4/16/02 4:02:58 PM Reply	Quid, sheets, Smackers, notes = Pounds GB. Ton = 100 quid. Don't know about the pony; five or ten quid, perhaps? Oh, a quid is about a buck and a half, or two bucks, or thereabouts[]. "Cheap as fook" = as fuck, obviously -- and oh, so fitting for me to be the one to explain it... []: Which is much better than in the olden days, when it used to be twelve bob or something. And thruppeny farthing! Christian R. Conrad Of course, who am I to point fingers? I'm in the "Information Technology" business, prima facia evidence that there's bats in the bell tower. -- [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=27764\|Andrew Grygus]
Post #35,658 by pwhysall 4/16/02 4:21:14 PM Reply	The biggest problem with XBox is that when you've got yer console, yer DVD remote, yer additional controller and a bunch of games, you're staring a monkey in the face. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal]
Post #35,660 by drewk 4/16/02 4:24:38 PM Reply	From the horse's_______________________________________mouth quid == 1 pound sterling sheet == 1 pound sterling pony == 25 quid smacker == 1 pound sterling cheap as fook == not the XBox three ton == three hundred sheets you can buy 10 PS2s for an archer, BTW. archer \ufffd2000 pounds 2000 quid it's the amount of money handed over by Lord Archer to the prostitute by the time you've bought an xbox, extra controllers, dvd thingy, and a few games, you're almost up to a monkey. A couple of ayrtons gets you a Platinum PS2 game. [link\|http://www.bio.nrc.ca/cockney/explain.html?id=19\|http://www.bio.nrc....n.html?id=19] === I can't be a Democrat because I like to spend the money I make. I can't be a Republican because I like to spend the money I make on drugs and whores.
Post #35,663 by CRConrad 4/16/02 4:40:53 PM Reply	Without going to that site... Ayrton = Senna (RIP) = Tenner?
Post #35,665 by pwhysall 4/16/02 4:48:44 PM Reply	\\o/ Not as daft as you're ugly-looking, are you? Now, if you can tell me without Googling how much a bed and breakfast is, I'll be really impressed :) Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal]
Post #35,676 by CRConrad 4/16/02 5:20:14 PM Reply	Wazzat stick figure - a hieroglyph for "Help, I'm drowning"? Thank you... No, not quite, fortunately! :-) Hmm... WAG: Ten and six-pence? (As in, ten _shilling_, of course.) No, I couldn't quite explain why -- it just kind'a sounds like it. Christian R. Conrad Of course, who am I to point fingers? I'm in the "Information Technology" business, prima facia evidence that there's bats in the bell tower. -- [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=27764\|Andrew Grygus]
Post #35,678 by pwhysall 4/16/02 5:22:03 PM Reply	It's a little bloke, cheering. Nope, nowhere near. Keep guessing :) Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal]
Post #260,916 by drewk 7/6/06 3:37:02 PM Reply	So how much is a bed and breakfast? === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #260,972 by pwhysall 7/7/06 1:19:08 AM Reply	4 years of googling hasn't done you much good, has it? Go on. Tell us that you haven't cried yourself to sleep every night for the past 4 years because of this thorny question. We'll pretend to believe you. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator]
Post #260,978 by admin 7/7/06 9:05:33 AM Reply	I know how much that is. taunt And yes, I Googled it. 30 seconds. Man, you suck. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #260,982 by drewk 7/7/06 9:41:05 AM Reply	He said "without googling" Some of us read the directions. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #260,984 by admin 7/7/06 10:15:24 AM 7/7/06 10:17:43 AM Reply	If you have to ask anyway, what's the point of not Googling? Besides, we all know how good you are with Google: "I can't find the Grey Lodge to get directions." "What did you Google for?" "'beer'" Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..." Edited by admin July 7, 2006, 10:17:43 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #260,985 by folkert 7/7/06 10:34:42 AM Reply	/me falls over Bones: He's dead, Jim. That was Fooking Hilarious! -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #260,987 by folkert 7/7/06 10:52:24 AM Reply	42... err well, ((42 - 16) * 1) I heard it used in a game of Darts. Thrower got a 5, a 20 and a 1. His opponent is was born and raised in, as he put, on the low side of London. He was barely understandable. But the "Bed and Breakfast, you trying to (unintelligible mumble) me?" was more understandable. But, I looked it up today to confirm the score was 26. Then I also saw it being a 2 and 6 in regard to lodging and meal costs long ago. I didn't know that. But it does make sense. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #35,700 by Meerkat 4/16/02 8:56:07 PM Reply	Xbox 'packs' in Oz... (apologies in advance, this post is a hodgepodge of half-formed ideas...) I guess it was probably the same all over the world, but at launch it was very difficult to buy an Xbox without the DVD pack included. That's since changed - you can buy a plain xbox for only $649 (gasp). PS2 is currently $499. Gamecube arrives in a few more weeks, not sure how much. The xbox games here are, erm, about 5 lobsters :) As they tend to say in the console world - people don't buy add-ons. So it doesn't bode well for the xbox DVD kit, (or the PS2 Hard drive/Ethernet kit when it arrives) The only xbox-not-dead guess I keep rabbitting on about is the M$ win at all costs approach. You'll see them free in boxes of cornflakes if it means market share. (And hey, I like the DC controller :) ) Aside: I did a search on a [link\|http://www.davidjones.com.au\|local shop's web site] for 'Nintendo', seeking GameCube pricing. And the first item returned in my search was... hint: not the gamecube. On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John.
Post #260,918 by boxley 7/6/06 4:04:05 PM Reply	xbox and ps2 now $129 at game stop NIB not planning on getting one any time soon, thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep

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