Post #3,181
7/31/01 9:03:51 AM
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MS "clarifies" position on opening up desktop to other icons
None at all or, if you want to add a competitors icon, you have to have MSN also.
[link|http://www.wired.com/news/antitrust/0,1551,45695,00.html|[link|http://www.wired.com/news/antitrust/0,1551,45695,00.html|http://www.wired.co...5695,00.html]]
"When it crosses my mind to do something, I don't ask why, I ask why not. And usually there's no reason not to, so I just go ahead. It's given me the strangest collection of hats"
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Post #3,201
7/31/01 9:55:29 AM
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Do you think the Bush admin is giving MSFT a break?
Or does it appear that they are going to make Microsoft pay for breaking anti-trust laws and harming competitors and thus, consumers and innovation. Now that Microsoft is changing it's stance on the icon issue again, will that add more fuel to the DoJ's dislike of Microsoft's strong-arm tactics? Anyone who thought Microsoft would no longer abuse their monopoly position can now rest assured that they will, Court of Appeals be damned.
[link|http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO62678,00.html?OpenDocument&~f| Experts: DOJ pressing ahead on Microsoft case]
By PATRICK THIBODEAU (July 30, 2001) WASHINGTON, D.C. -- When President Bush took office last January, supporters of the government's antitrust case against Microsoft Corp. feared that the new administration would seek an easy settlement. But legal experts on both sides of the fight said today that they see little difference so far between the current administration and the Clinton administration that initiated the historic lawsuit. The Justice Department "has determined to press ahead in a very vigorous way," said Kenneth Starr, a former judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals, which heard the case, and the prosecutor who led the Whitewater probe that ultimately uncovered President Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky.
Starr, who is now advising ProComp, a trade group that includes Microsoft competitors backing the government's case, cited a government filing earlier this month seeking expedited action as evidence (see story). In it, the U.S. Department of Justice and 19 states wrote, "Delay in imposing an effective remedy inflicts substantial and widespread consumer injury and needlessly prolongs uncertainty in the computer industry."
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Post #3,206
7/31/01 10:10:41 AM
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Bush Position?
Contrary to some opinions, antitrust is not necessarily anathema to the conservative position. Monopoly business practices are impediments to a free market economy.
On a more practical basis, the conservative camp also includes many bankers and other businessmen who are threatened by the MS monopoly. Old companies like Kodak lodging complaints are a much wider story than software companies like Sun, Novell or Netscape worrying about their competitive position. MS has made a lot of corporate enemies and has not won many friends in those businesses wishing to enter the internet economy.
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Post #3,241
7/31/01 12:38:57 PM
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Good point.
Thanks for bringing it up. Microsoft has made many enemies outside the software world and many of their newly-made enemies have brick and mortar power. The next few months could get interesting as the b&M's align themselves with the new-economy players.
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Post #3,212
7/31/01 10:44:38 AM
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Dumb.
I'm shocked at *how* dumb this is.
After you do a "Gee, we'll let you".. and a week later say "Nope, nevermind"...
That's the sort of thing that gets through to people, whether they use MSN or AOL or not.
Like a few years back, the "check" scandal at the Congressional Post Office, where congresscritters were bouncing checks, without repercussion...
People *understand* bouncing a $200 check. Wasting $2 billion is a vague concept.
"Conceeding", and then changing it when someone takes you up on it... people understand that from the elementary playground.
Addison
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Post #3,275
7/31/01 2:39:44 PM
7/31/01 3:01:38 PM
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If B & B are making the legal decisions - big trouble.
Billy and Ballmer have no concept of either law or ethics - they're two bulls in a china shop (and Animal Control is closing in).
I got [link|http://www.aaxnet.com/news/M010731.html|my article up]
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #3,276
7/31/01 2:40:54 PM
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You're going to want to edit that link
no http: on the front of it.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #3,281
7/31/01 3:23:04 PM
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Coolness!
Never noticed the EDIT option before!
Darrell Spice, Jr.
[link|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
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Post #3,360
8/1/01 4:32:36 AM
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It's because of your policy!
Since you don't do windows..
..they're dirty!
:-\ufffd
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Post #3,430
8/1/01 11:51:45 AM
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LOL
Darrell Spice, Jr.
[link|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
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Post #3,286
7/31/01 3:38:54 PM
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Your LA Times link isn't
"When it crosses my mind to do something, I don't ask why, I ask why not. And usually there's no reason not to, so I just go ahead. It's given me the strangest collection of hats"
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Post #3,290
7/31/01 3:44:30 PM
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I have a hard time linking to the dead tree version.
I was in a hurry, maybe I'll find the link later - but their links disappear into "per pay" in a few days anyway.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #3,288
7/31/01 3:40:32 PM
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Typo
In the first line: "... and and lost the appeal ..."
This is my sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
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Post #3,292
7/31/01 3:44:57 PM
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Spelled it "Balmer" once too :-)
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #3,295
7/31/01 3:54:11 PM
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Damn! thought I got all those (I always . . .
. . spell it Balmer the first time through (and a search of the Register (one of our greatest repositories of typos) will show plenty of precedent for that).
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #3,293
7/31/01 3:49:09 PM
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Thanks - fixed
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #3,582
8/2/01 4:35:16 AM
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Gotta take issue with one point in another of your articles:
From [link|http://www.aaxnet.com/news/M010723.html|Senate to Grill Microsoft]: "They have stated they cannot let the Windows XP release confuse consumers during the release of XBox (due for the Christmas season), so the delay in releasing XP will be a long one." Yeah, sure, they've stated that... But since when does their stating anything have to mean it's true??? It's not as if they've always worked all-out to avoid "confus[ing] consumers" before -- rather on the contrary, AFAICS. (Oh yeah, and in [link|http://www.aaxnet.com/news/M010731.html|Blatant Anti-Trust Violation?], you still have one typo of his name: "Let's all shed a tear for poor Mr. Balmer".)
Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
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Post #3,245
7/31/01 1:00:24 PM
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IANAL, But this is a blatant violation of monopoly power.
They're forcing AOL to pay for Microsoft advertising, and Compaq says they'll have to go along because of Microsoft's monopoly power.
The DoJ should have a lot of fun with this in the next few months (if Microsoft's lawyers don't do a panic recall (I kind of expect a flat out denial that this was ever said)). If this is not recalled, it looks just plain suicidal to me.
[link|www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #3,267
7/31/01 2:12:36 PM
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This seems like a well aimed shot at the foot.
The only thing I can think of here is that someone will be tasked with owning up to making a "mistake" in making this announcement. Maybe even get fired? Nah, never happen.
"When it crosses my mind to do something, I don't ask why, I ask why not. And usually there's no reason not to, so I just go ahead. It's given me the strangest collection of hats"
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Post #3,328
7/31/01 10:09:35 PM
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Excellent point re: AOL paying for MSFT ad.
Alex
This is my sig. There's another almost like it, but this one is mine.
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Post #3,362
8/1/01 4:50:52 AM
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Propose a letter-writing campaign to Billy n'Bally. Thane?
Telling 'em how proud we are as Muricans - of their standing up to those Washington idiots. Remind them of how brilliant they are, how well they have done by disregarding the craven advice of long-haired radical lawyers and such.
Admonish them to keep the bit firmly in their teeth and win this one for all Right-thinking Muricans, who realize their bravery in standing tall against losers - who want them to surrender their God-given right to innovate. Delegate nothing - make all the decisions yourselves!
Can we bring this off with a straight face - for Gawd & Country? Gotta do it *now* before they cave and settle! Use 100% rag paper, signed in INK - quality sellz.
Thane: correct mailstop addresses? Got my Sheaffer all warmed up...
Hallmark Dyslexo-turf: When you care enough to rend the very beast
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