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Post #307,217 by jay 4/12/09 2:47:42 PM Reply	Which isn't enough My point was that just changing the language of the government isn't enough. Lets say Dan and Bob decide to get a civil union. Dan refers to it as getting married at work. A fundy coworker sends a complaint to management and Dan gets fired. Now a suit can't be raised on discrimination, because Dan was't fired for being gay or being in a gay marriage, he was fired for telling a lie at work. And because marriage is a purely religious matter in your system, the state doesn't get a say in deciding what definition of married will be accepted or not. Jay
Post #307,218 by boxley 4/12/09 3:14:26 PM Reply	in the real world the fundie gets fired for insulting Dan's religious beliefs. What a fundie calls marriage is his definition, Dan has his own and they are allowed to be different. Can a muslim be fired for talking about his marriage to his 3rd wife back in pakistan? Dont think so
Post #307,219 by boxley 4/12/09 3:22:44 PM Reply	actually a real world example link picture http://www.firstpeop...-three-wives.html about half way down the link http://www.indianz.c...=1377&whichpage=4 One of my favorite stories of Quanah though is that after he surrendered, the Indian agent told him that he had to cut off his hair and that he could only keep one wife. According to the story his wives were standing around giving that good mean woman look when the agent told him this. Quanah said, "I will NOT cut off my hair. As to my wives...you tell THEM that." Quanah kept his hair and his wives.
Post #307,220 by beepster 4/12/09 3:39:28 PM Reply	What? telling a lie at work?? You gotta do better than that. There may be a few good examples...this isn't one of them. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.

Mark Morford on the gay heathen hordes freaking out the - (Ashton) - (52) - April 10, 2009, 04:40:48 AM EDT

Wow...not too reactionary... - (beepster) - (2) - April 10, 2009, 08:21:21 AM EDT

well look at the bright side :-) - (boxley) - (1) - April 10, 2009, 08:45:45 AM EDT

:-) -NT - (beepster) - April 10, 2009, 10:07:07 AM EDT

Interesting point there - (drook) - (34) - April 10, 2009, 09:46:26 AM EDT

I have said that for years, the state has no business - (boxley) - (2) - April 10, 2009, 09:49:32 AM EDT

Is it? - (drook) - (1) - April 10, 2009, 10:45:27 AM EDT

Current law is the name on the birth certificate - (boxley) - April 10, 2009, 10:50:14 AM EDT

Re: Interesting point there - (jay) - (20) - April 10, 2009, 12:01:58 PM EDT

Words count - (drook) - (18) - April 10, 2009, 03:28:30 PM EDT

bing bing bing! - (beepster) - (8) - April 10, 2009, 04:26:55 PM EDT

I view it differently. - (Another Scott) - (7) - April 10, 2009, 07:13:23 PM EDT

You missed the implication of what I said - (drook) - (5) - April 10, 2009, 07:48:24 PM EDT

But the horse left the barn and is in the next county. - (Another Scott) - (4) - April 10, 2009, 09:00:25 PM EDT

Good idea, but DOA - (drook) - April 10, 2009, 09:17:55 PM EDT

marriage is a religious term not a legal term - (boxley) - (2) - April 12, 2009, 10:57:53 AM EDT

So they were covered on each other's insurance? - (drook) - (1) - April 12, 2009, 11:51:48 AM EDT

actually neither had insurance :-) - (boxley) - April 12, 2009, 12:13:40 PM EDT

nope, my marriage was illegal in virginia - (boxley) - April 12, 2009, 10:51:16 AM EDT

I don't think it would really work - (jay) - (8) - April 11, 2009, 12:47:49 PM EDT

People are lazy, I'm counting on that - (drook) - (7) - April 11, 2009, 06:52:43 PM EDT

There would be - (jay) - (6) - April 11, 2009, 11:32:44 PM EDT

I'm not trying to change the language people use - (drook) - (5) - April 12, 2009, 11:48:53 AM EDT

can we use a fade away shot - (boxley) - April 12, 2009, 12:15:10 PM EDT

Which isn't enough - (jay) - (3) - April 12, 2009, 02:47:42 PM EDT

in the real world the fundie gets fired - (boxley) - April 12, 2009, 03:14:26 PM EDT

actually a real world example link - (boxley) - April 12, 2009, 03:22:44 PM EDT

What? - (beepster) - April 12, 2009, 03:39:28 PM EDT

bassackwards - (boxley) - April 12, 2009, 10:48:13 AM EDT

Interesting discussion. - (static) - (9) - April 11, 2009, 01:27:01 AM EDT

I think that where you stand depends on where you sit. - (Another Scott) - (4) - April 11, 2009, 09:12:03 AM EDT

Yep, I've 'committed marriage' upon 3 sets, so far -- - (Ashton) - April 11, 2009, 07:57:14 PM EDT

I had another thought. - (static) - April 12, 2009, 04:12:16 AM EDT

thanks for proving my point - (boxley) - (1) - April 12, 2009, 11:04:12 AM EDT

My point, too. - (static) - April 12, 2009, 07:56:27 PM EDT

Marriage probably predates religion - (jay) - (3) - April 11, 2009, 01:01:55 PM EDT

I seriously doubt . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - April 11, 2009, 02:06:48 PM EDT

Unanswerable question - (jay) - (1) - April 11, 2009, 11:36:55 PM EDT

Ummm . . . paper thin? - (Andrew Grygus) - April 12, 2009, 03:40:17 AM EDT

So this thread became about who gets to define language... - (CRConrad) - (13) - Sept. 30, 2010, 07:37:52 AM EDT

1. doesnt matter, - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2010, 07:42:29 AM EDT

You're missing the point by a mile, as usual. - (CRConrad) - Oct. 1, 2010, 05:45:17 AM EDT

Define "married" - (drook) - (4) - Sept. 30, 2010, 10:02:54 AM EDT

Married=Living in a civil union(religious blessing optional) - (CRConrad) - (3) - Oct. 1, 2010, 06:10:50 AM EDT

Dammit, you're making a good point - (drook) - Oct. 1, 2010, 09:20:19 AM EDT

Well said. Here's an interesting summary. - (Another Scott) - Oct. 13, 2010, 01:33:24 PM EDT

Stuart Chase ceased revolving-in-grave upon this utterance - (Ashton) - Oct. 13, 2010, 07:41:02 PM EDT

Each religion can define it for themselves - (mhuber) - (5) - Oct. 1, 2010, 01:55:57 PM EDT

Sure-if they also name it for themselves.'Coz "marriage"... - (CRConrad) - (4) - Oct. 2, 2010, 07:14:39 PM EDT

FWIW, this Xian agrees with me - (drook) - (3) - Oct. 13, 2010, 11:31:02 AM EDT

I'm dealing with this right now - (crazy) - (2) - Oct. 13, 2010, 02:02:46 PM EDT

I can picture the joke now - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 13, 2010, 02:44:56 PM EDT

It writes itself. - (crazy) - Oct. 14, 2010, 11:16:19 AM EDT

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