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New I think I found what I want
http://reviews.cnet....0_7-30963150.html


Panasonic DV PROLINE AG-DVC7P - camcorder - Mini DV

Professional large CCD, external mike input, remote.
I'd prefer an hard disk but not required. Use the remote when I want it on.

Used, claimed once. I'll find out if it looks good/works tonight.

$400

Or, if I wanted consumer, I can get this:

http://southjersey.c...ho/956121339.html

$450
Expand Edited by crazy Dec. 23, 2008, 01:41:17 PM EST
New The MiniDV tapes are usually 60 minutes.
Though apparently you can put 90 minutes on them in EP/LP mode. You probably don't want to use that if you don't have to, though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV

The 2nd device is a AVCHD recorder. Understand what you're getting into if you go that route. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD

Good luck!

Cheers,
Scott.
New Re: The MiniDV tapes are usually 60 minutes.
Yeah, I have a camera that uses them already.

Key issue on that is I really only want to record in about 30 minute bursts, but I need to control it. If it was hard disk, I'd simply ignore it and let it run.

But with a remote, I can control as needed.

I'm waiting on the guy to get back to me on my offer.
I've got a fallback lower end I'm looking at as well:
Panasonic SDR-H18 30GB HDD SD Camcorder 32X optical with OIS - $175

I might end up with both Panasonics.
New Ok, the Sony is out
Will be checking out the high end Panasonic in a few hours, the low end right after that.
New Got'em
Tossed the high end manual at the boy.
He tossed it back, said it wasn't windows so he didn't have to support it.
I tossed it back, told him to read it anyway.

He's a SERIOUS camera geek. He's heavily into graphic arts, and is one of those people who drool over each feature in each photoshop release. So he has all the core knowledge on the tech/composition side.

And he's also really talented, ie: produces visually pleasing stuff. He certainly didn't get that from me.

He doesn't do video. He can spent a month putting together a single perfect piece. A picture. But not a video.

So he started with no interest.

Within a few minutes of reading, he starts cackling and laughing about the incredible features on this thing. Goes on and on explaining how wonderful they are.

He's hooked.
New :-)
     Video camera info? - (crazy) - (19)
         Dunno. - (Another Scott) - (14)
             Re: Dunno. - (beepster) - (12)
                 Ok , then what price range should I consider? - (crazy)
                 How's this one look? - (crazy)
                 Or how about this? - (crazy)
                 And here's a comparison of Panasonic models - (crazy) - (2)
                     To really go low light - (beepster) - (1)
                         Been reading about that - (crazy)
                 I think I found what I want - (crazy) - (5)
                     The MiniDV tapes are usually 60 minutes. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                         Re: The MiniDV tapes are usually 60 minutes. - (crazy) - (1)
                             Ok, the Sony is out - (crazy)
                     Got'em - (crazy) - (1)
                         :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
             just bought a camera - (boxley)
         Lots of good info at CamCorderInfo. - (Another Scott)
         Just remember Sony won't let you release it on Betamax :) -NT - (Meerkat) - (2)
             This project they would - (crazy) - (1)
                 Speaking of lights... - (Another Scott)

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