Re: Dunno.

Post #301,331 by beepster 12/22/08 1:25:50 AM Reply	Re: Dunno. Recording length isn't an issue with the new recorders with hard disks. 40g models are in the 400 range. Low light is an issue with anything in that price range though. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #301,338 by crazy 12/22/08 11:19:44 AM Reply	Ok , then what price range should I consider? Show me some specific models with functionality that you consider high end (light related) and I'll use that as my research baseline.
Post #301,340 by crazy 12/22/08 11:37:36 AM Reply	How's this one look? http://www.sonystyle...98552921665291512 I suspect "candle mode" is the right mix of settings for what I want.
Post #301,342 by crazy 12/22/08 11:48:32 AM Reply	Or how about this? http://www2.panasoni...005702#tabsection
Post #301,343 by crazy 12/22/08 12:00:51 PM Reply	And here's a comparison of Panasonic models http://www2.panasoni...65\|110039\|113560\| That 3 CCD system for an extra $200 looks mighty attractive. Resolution much higher, light sensitivity doubles. Hmm. Anyone find someone selling the SDR-H200 in my range?
Post #301,358 by beepster 12/22/08 2:31:28 PM Reply	To really go low light you need to move to pro grade equipment. (think 1500+) However, it doesn't sound like you are that dependent on having ultra clear video. I would borrow someones first and see if the lower level ccd cameras will get you what you are looking for. The problem isn't money, its the size of the sensors. Same issue I'm having with my Nikon D60 still camera. When you start cramming more pixels on the same size sensor, it simply takes a lot more light to make it work. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #301,361 by crazy 12/22/08 2:50:43 PM Reply	Been reading about that http://www.camcorder...9/Performance.htm Seems like this one beat expectations on the CMOS shrink. And it "lists" for $1,200, $800 is common, lower seems to happen but I don't trust them. I'll wait until after Christmas to see if it drops to the $500 range.
Post #301,414 by crazy 12/23/08 1:39:26 PM 12/23/08 1:41:17 PM Reply	I think I found what I want http://reviews.cnet....0_7-30963150.html Panasonic DV PROLINE AG-DVC7P - camcorder - Mini DV Professional large CCD, external mike input, remote. I'd prefer an hard disk but not required. Use the remote when I want it on. Used, claimed once. I'll find out if it looks good/works tonight. $400 Or, if I wanted consumer, I can get this: http://southjersey.c...ho/956121339.html $450 Edited by crazy Dec. 23, 2008, 01:41:17 PM EST Expand All History
Post #301,417 by Another Scott 12/23/08 1:49:11 PM Reply	The MiniDV tapes are usually 60 minutes. Though apparently you can put 90 minutes on them in EP/LP mode. You probably don't want to use that if you don't have to, though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV The 2nd device is a AVCHD recorder. Understand what you're getting into if you go that route. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD Good luck! Cheers, Scott.
Post #301,418 by crazy 12/23/08 2:18:36 PM Reply	Re: The MiniDV tapes are usually 60 minutes. Yeah, I have a camera that uses them already. Key issue on that is I really only want to record in about 30 minute bursts, but I need to control it. If it was hard disk, I'd simply ignore it and let it run. But with a remote, I can control as needed. I'm waiting on the guy to get back to me on my offer. I've got a fallback lower end I'm looking at as well: Panasonic SDR-H18 30GB HDD SD Camcorder 32X optical with OIS - $175 I might end up with both Panasonics.
Post #301,423 by crazy 12/23/08 3:45:17 PM Reply	Ok, the Sony is out Will be checking out the high end Panasonic in a few hours, the low end right after that.
Post #301,459 by crazy 12/23/08 11:00:39 PM Reply	Got'em Tossed the high end manual at the boy. He tossed it back, said it wasn't windows so he didn't have to support it. I tossed it back, told him to read it anyway. He's a SERIOUS camera geek. He's heavily into graphic arts, and is one of those people who drool over each feature in each photoshop release. So he has all the core knowledge on the tech/composition side. And he's also really talented, ie: produces visually pleasing stuff. He certainly didn't get that from me. He doesn't do video. He can spent a month putting together a single perfect piece. A picture. But not a video. So he started with no interest. Within a few minutes of reading, he starts cackling and laughing about the incredible features on this thing. Goes on and on explaining how wonderful they are. He's hooked.
Post #301,460 by Another Scott 12/23/08 11:02:45 PM Reply	:-)

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