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Post #283,613 by warmachine 5/2/07 6:50:33 AM Reply	He needed to investigate integration He identified that J2EE is good for the back-end. Most companies integrate multiple services, so they're written as n-tier, not 2-tier, with back-ends talking to other back-ends. The presentation talks to a back-end, not the DB, and that back-end is usually J2EE. I don't care about its ability to generate tables from a model, how well can it talk to J2EE? That is what Tomcat can do well. Anything else out there that talks to J2EE well? Matthew Greet Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin? - Mark Renton, Trainspotting.
Post #283,624 by admin 5/2/07 8:50:56 AM Reply	Depends on what you're doing Much of the time a backend isn't necessary. But then again, that's my beef with these kinds of "investigations": someone does a trivial application, decides that Method C is great (for what they have on the mind), then another someone will come along and make a completely unreasonable extrapolation to a completely different situation. Then when it fails (or it was more work than the trivial demo app), the second someone gets upset. That being said, our application is exactly what he describes: web servers talking to a database. :-) Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #283,644 by warmachine 5/2/07 10:45:16 AM Reply	I have back-ends Integration with services for IVR controllers, cross-application customer accounts, (female) operator usage logs, content delivery over SMS and WAP, and customer moderation. 2-tier is not an option. Strange thing is, the investigator uses distributed J2EE services like my company (without horny people on the 'phone) but hasn't investigated talking with the existing services. I think you're right. Someone else will try some other meterology app in the same framework and it'll be hideous. Pity really. Xdoclet and Struts takes some of the pain away but compiled code is painful in a presentation layer. Matthew Greet Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin? - Mark Renton, Trainspotting.

Nifty demo of J2EE vs Zope vs RoR vs django vs etc ... - (drewk) - (32) - May 1, 2007, 11:11:06 PM EDT

WooHoo! J2EE is the way to go! ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - May 2, 2007, 12:10:36 AM EDT

Thoughts... - (admin) - (27) - May 2, 2007, 12:55:54 AM EDT

Other thoughts - (tuberculosis) - (16) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:05:11 AM EDT

Other other thoughts... - (admin) - (14) - May 2, 2007, 10:44:38 AM EDT

Builder pattern - (tuberculosis) - (13) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:05:30 AM EDT

Not impressed. - (admin) - (5) - May 2, 2007, 11:45:42 AM EDT

You still don't get it - (tuberculosis) - (4) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:07:07 AM EDT

No, I get it just fine. - (admin) - (3) - May 2, 2007, 11:12:10 PM EDT

Been there before - maintenance Hell - not going back -NT - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:07:34 AM EDT

Your experience differs from mine. -NT - (admin) - (1) - May 2, 2007, 11:33:17 PM EDT

Apparently so -NT - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:08:11 AM EDT

Builder pattern... :-O - (static) - (1) - May 2, 2007, 11:03:43 PM EDT

Two things - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:07:31 AM EDT

Oi! Even if your screen is six foot wide, not everyone's is! - (CRConrad) - (4) - May 6, 2007, 04:14:00 PM EDT

Do you have a 1886 Volvo CRT, too? - (Another Scott) - (1) - May 6, 2007, 04:40:00 PM EDT

El Cheapo older(ish) HP laptop, 1024 x 768 I think. - (CRConrad) - May 7, 2007, 03:30:26 AM EDT

Yah sure - done -NT - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:16:45 AM EDT

Great, Thanks. -NT - (CRConrad) - May 7, 2007, 03:30:48 AM EDT

Document generation in code - (ubernostrum) - May 5, 2007, 12:58:53 AM EDT

Thanks. - (Another Scott) - (9) - May 2, 2007, 10:32:32 AM EDT

If you only saw half you missed the best parts. :-) - (admin) - (8) - May 2, 2007, 10:46:40 AM EDT

What was at the end? - (drewk) - (1) - May 3, 2007, 08:38:43 PM EDT

He built an actual application with each. - (admin) - May 3, 2007, 10:54:58 PM EDT

Re: If you only saw half you missed the best parts. :-) - (ubernostrum) - (5) - May 5, 2007, 01:02:04 AM EDT

Django newforms... - (admin) - (4) - May 5, 2007, 07:56:15 AM EDT

Re: Django newforms... - (ubernostrum) - (3) - May 5, 2007, 09:21:19 PM EDT

Good deal. - (admin) - (2) - May 5, 2007, 09:44:53 PM EDT

Yeah. - (ubernostrum) - (1) - May 6, 2007, 12:02:54 AM EDT

I don't use the admin stuff - (admin) - May 6, 2007, 09:21:18 AM EDT

He needed to investigate integration - (warmachine) - (2) - May 2, 2007, 06:50:33 AM EDT

Depends on what you're doing - (admin) - (1) - May 2, 2007, 08:50:56 AM EDT

I have back-ends - (warmachine) - May 2, 2007, 10:45:16 AM EDT

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